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Unregistered 10-06-2020 07:09 PM

What will happen if I am suddenly diagnosed with a health problem (which I am not aware of) during the medical check up? Will I get rejected as a result?

Unregistered 10-06-2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137660)
I applied before. Took them very long to reject me

Did it take more than a month?😂

Unregistered 10-06-2020 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137672)
Did it take more than a month?😂

More than 2 months. No interview invitation

Unregistered 10-06-2020 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137516)
Is it possible to turn a contract role in CS to a permanent one? Say you performed well in the contract role...

It depends on your SB. Some treat the contract duration as an unspoken probation to assess your performance before permanent emplacement, some may renew your contract and keep you on contract basis (if no room in headcount / budget).

Unregistered 10-06-2020 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137661)
What will happen if I am suddenly diagnosed with a health problem (which I am not aware of) during the medical check up? Will I get rejected as a result?

it doesn't matter whether you are aware or not.

as long as your health problem doesn't affect your ability to perform the job, you should be fine

Unregistered 10-06-2020 11:34 PM

Shortlisted
 
Hi, all. If the applicant in C@G shows shortlisted and the JD shows that they will contact you without 2 weeks of being shortlisted but the automated email states 8 weeks

Which do I take as an accurate “wait period” for them to contact me? Cause I do have a pending offer of 6 months from another stat board but this “Shortlisted” status has passed the 2 weeks mark.

Doesn’t it mean no chance for the shortlisting Liao? Since it has already passed the 2 weeks mark, and I’m probably on the 4th week after they close the application.

Unregistered 11-06-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137742)
Hi, all. If the applicant in C@G shows shortlisted and the JD shows that they will contact you without 2 weeks of being shortlisted but the automated email states 8 weeks

Which do I take as an accurate “wait period” for them to contact me? Cause I do have a pending offer of 6 months from another stat board but this “Shortlisted” status has passed the 2 weeks mark.

Doesn’t it mean no chance for the shortlisting Liao? Since it has already passed the 2 weeks mark, and I’m probably on the 4th week after they close the application.

It varies. I had one that only contacted me for interview 3-4 months after I submitted application

Unregistered 11-06-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137783)
It varies. I had one that only contacted me for interview 3-4 months after I submitted application

I see, but is there a chance where they won’t call back because you fell out of the shortlisting? Anyone knows?

Unregistered 11-06-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137809)
I see, but is there a chance where they won’t call back because you fell out of the shortlisting? Anyone knows?

If you went for interview already, they will tell you the results (whether rejected or accepted) most of the time.

If only just applied, sometimes they will just ignore your initial application, and wait until very long to receive the rejection email from system

gonky 11-06-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137812)
If you went for interview already, they will tell you the results (whether rejected or accepted) most of the time.

If only just applied, sometimes they will just ignore your initial application, and wait until very long to receive the rejection email from system

Oh, haven't went for interview. They just placed the Status as "Shortlisted"

Means, after 2 - 8 weeks is considered as rejected liao?

Unregistered 11-06-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137812)
If you went for interview already, they will tell you the results (whether rejected or accepted) most of the time.

If only just applied, sometimes they will just ignore your initial application, and wait until very long to receive the rejection email from system

what’s the usual timeline of letting us know if they have accepted/rejected us after interview? thanks :)

Unregistered 11-06-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137835)
what’s the usual timeline of letting us know if they have accepted/rejected us after interview? thanks :)

I have not been accepted before. Usually the rejections after interview that I get are at least 4 weeks onwards. Some of my peers are able to get accepted after interview as fast as 1-2 weeks, and some as slow as a few months

Unregistered 11-06-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 137841)
I have not been accepted before. Usually the rejections after interview that I get are at least 4 weeks onwards. Some of my peers are able to get accepted after interview as fast as 1-2 weeks, and some as slow as a few months

ahh thanks so much for sharing! this is my first time applying, am a lil shocked by the Long waiting time as always been in private/MNCs where it’s significantly faster.

Unregistered 14-06-2020 01:18 PM

The portion on why you want to join the public sector, how long do you guys write? HR got read this?

Unregistered 14-06-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138168)
The portion on why you want to join the public sector, how long do you guys write? HR got read this?

I usually write a short paragraph. Not sure if HR reads it

Unregistered 14-06-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138186)
I usually write a short paragraph. Not sure if HR reads it

Everyone writes the same garbage which is basically 'its covid, i need a job until this is over and i jump ship to private sector'

Unregistered 14-06-2020 08:33 PM

Does any one know by currently having public service experience will help to secure another relevant role in another ministry or statboard more easily?

Do HR take in consideration of this?

Unregistered 14-06-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138235)
Does any one know by currently having public service experience will help to secure another relevant role in another ministry or statboard more easily?

Do HR take in consideration of this?

Obvioisly lah. Can dont be such a stupiak park and ask such question? You telling me next employer wont ask abt ur previous public sector experience?
A lot of pple here now jobless so can you pls dont ask questions which obviously gives you an added advantage

Unregistered 15-06-2020 03:00 AM

Those with ns, if you are not command school, would your app be disadvantaged?

Unregistered 15-06-2020 10:03 AM

LOL You guys realise that the govt job application at Careers Gov no longer put the current monthly or expected pay??
See, small small petty thing government damn fast to react.

Unregistered 15-06-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138316)
Those with ns, if you are not command school, would your app be disadvantaged?

I dont think it matters, unless you are applying for uniformed positions

Unregistered 15-06-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138331)
LOL You guys realise that the govt job application at Careers Gov no longer put the current monthly or expected pay??
See, small small petty thing government damn fast to react.

This may actually not be such a good thing. Without the current and expected salary, HR won’t hv your expectations to work with so they can just use their “formula” and u end up with a lower than expected offer, which would be like a std pay and not take into account your prior related experiences or work performance

Unregistered 16-06-2020 09:22 AM

Slower HR processing
 
In view of the current COVID19 situation, is it that non #SGUnited jobs are actually taking slightly longer to be processed?

Unregistered 16-06-2020 12:11 PM

strange, some job openings with closing date of one year or more, meaning no urgency or only checking market response?

Unregistered 16-06-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138478)
strange, some job openings with closing date of one year or more, meaning no urgency or only checking market response?

means they're hiring a lot for that position, always open for applications. It also takes into consideration their internal hiring timelines which may take up to months.

Unregistered 16-06-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138478)
strange, some job openings with closing date of one year or more, meaning no urgency or only checking market response?

These positions are evergreen for example an saf officer, there's no 'closing date' or specific quota for the year but of course subject to being successfully shortlisted and being invited for interview.

Unregistered 16-06-2020 03:26 PM

HR Timeline
 
Hello I'm new to applying directly through the C@G. Since I've always applied through recruitment agency which takes about two weeks from application to interview and to start date. But that depends also the stateboard or ministry in question and also the urgency to fill up the role as mentioned in this thread.

But I digress, most recently I have applied a role in a SB through my careerfuture portal. I applied around late May 2020. The role is tagged under SGUNITED. Was contacted for interview in early June. Interview was last Wed, 10 June.

During the interview, was told that the hiring process could take up 3-4 weeks and that HR would give me a response by end of next week. To my surprise, I received a response on last Friday, 12 June, saying that they decided to proceed with me and gave me a verbal offer and I accepted. They also said that they will be doing up the paperwork.

As of now, I have not received any updates. I've checked on C@G to see if a similar position is there from the SB and also on mycareersfuture portal but there are none. Currently also there are other offers I received from other employers and needs my response. But I'm very keen on this SB. I'll request an update from HR shortly.

Meanwhile, by this stage, do you think the SB would have seriously considered me and wont offer to other candidate? (I understand that many of you said it's only when I have signed the actual contract then its final). And given the timeline of my interview and now, do you think it's too soon to request an update? Thanks!

Unregistered 16-06-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138316)
Those with ns, if you are not command school, would your app be disadvantaged?

Nope your rank does not matter but one crucial factor in your NS record that will affect you is your Conduct and Performance indicated in your service transcript.

Everyone should minimally exhibit “Good” performance in the two. Commander or not, if either one of them is just “Satisfactory” or worse “Unsatisfactory” or “Non-Assessable”, it’ll set some red flags to your hiring manager.

Unregistered 16-06-2020 09:28 PM

Actually do you all write a thank you email after the interview? Isit a norm?

Unregistered 16-06-2020 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138561)
Actually do you all write a thank you email after the interview? Isit a norm?

Personally, no harm trying. But it doesn't affect your chances significantly.

I wrote individualized thank-you letters to EMA after my interview, to each and every one of my interviewers. Not a single reply. And I didn't get the job.

Similarly, I wrote thank-you letters to CPFB after my interview, and I got a very generic reply. I didn't get the job.

I wrote thank-you letters to a stat board under MOE recently after my interview, and their replies were so heartwarming. I got the job.

Unregistered 16-06-2020 11:48 PM

Working Culture at SEAB.
 
Hi all, do you guys have any idea how is the working culture like at SEAB?

I am not talking about the invigilator/examiner roles, but more of the corporate functions like HR, corporate planning, etc.

Been trying to find info but glassdoor doesn't even have a page for the stat board.

Unregistered 17-06-2020 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138561)
Actually do you all write a thank you email after the interview? Isit a norm?

I’ve never written thank you emails and still got the jobs I interviewed for in private and public sectors (both in min and SB). Imho such niceties are not important to sg employers and won’t do much for you, good luck.

Unregistered 17-06-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138518)
Hello I'm new to applying directly through the C@G. Since I've always applied through recruitment agency which takes about two weeks from application to interview and to start date. But that depends also the stateboard or ministry in question and also the urgency to fill up the role as mentioned in this thread.

But I digress, most recently I have applied a role in a SB through my careerfuture portal. I applied around late May 2020. The role is tagged under SGUNITED. Was contacted for interview in early June. Interview was last Wed, 10 June.

During the interview, was told that the hiring process could take up 3-4 weeks and that HR would give me a response by end of next week. To my surprise, I received a response on last Friday, 12 June, saying that they decided to proceed with me and gave me a verbal offer and I accepted. They also said that they will be doing up the paperwork.

As of now, I have not received any updates. I've checked on C@G to see if a similar position is there from the SB and also on mycareersfuture portal but there are none. Currently also there are other offers I received from other employers and needs my response. But I'm very keen on this SB. I'll request an update from HR shortly.

Meanwhile, by this stage, do you think the SB would have seriously considered me and wont offer to other candidate? (I understand that many of you said it's only when I have signed the actual contract then its final). And given the timeline of my interview and now, do you think it's too soon to request an update? Thanks!

went through a similar experience, usually paperwork from SB can take quite long, like ard 2 weeks or more from the date of the verbal offer. if you're anxious, you should check with HR how long till you can sign (if you didn't check when they gave u the verbal offer), and also mention you have other offers that you would like to confidently reject, usually HR will understand and try and help - not really requesting an update but more like a clarification.

usually, quite rare for CS/SB to rescind a verbal offer because they likely have gone through the rounds of approval and started the process of your paperwork, so if they rescind they'll have to do more paperwork to justify.

Unregistered 17-06-2020 09:43 AM

Sincerely wish those who needs a job, will get a job soon. I myself have been out of employment for quite sometime, have had interviews with Min, SB and private sector for the past weeks. Hopefully will get a response soon, just have to stay positive, because we will get through this together as its temporary. At least thats what I told myself. 💪

Unregistered 17-06-2020 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138595)
Sincerely wish those who needs a job, will get a job soon. I myself have been out of employment for quite sometime, have had interviews with Min, SB and private sector for the past weeks. Hopefully will get a response soon, just have to stay positive, because we will get through this together as its temporary. At least thats what I told myself. 💪

Do u mind telling what is ur specialisation / degree? Congrats btw

Unregistered 18-06-2020 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138593)
went through a similar experience, usually paperwork from SB can take quite long, like ard 2 weeks or more from the date of the verbal offer. if you're anxious, you should check with HR how long till you can sign (if you didn't check when they gave u the verbal offer), and also mention you have other offers that you would like to confidently reject, usually HR will understand and try and help - not really requesting an update but more like a clarification.

usually, quite rare for CS/SB to rescind a verbal offer because they likely have gone through the rounds of approval and started the process of your paperwork, so if they rescind they'll have to do more paperwork to justify.

Ahh ok thanks thats more reassuring.

UPDATE: I emailed asking for a timeframe by which I can look forward to signing the contract and starting date. The HR said that they are in the midst of seeking required approval and will get back to me by end of next week. They also said they are flexible in the start date.

Does this reply means that I already got the job and now just waiting for procedural sake such as getting approval etc., to sign the contract? Also, as getting approval could take longer than expected, there is another part-time offer that I'm keen to take up before I sign this SB full-time contract. Since that part-time job is flexible and work in the weekends, do I have to resign from it once I take up the SB offer? Because I heard and know that Civil Servants are not allowed to moonlight. But then I understand that working in SB, means you are a public servant. So are public servants also not sparred from moonlighting?

Unregistered 18-06-2020 04:54 PM

Job Application Status
 
Hello! Would like to hear your opinions/advice on this:

Applied for MSF roles – CWO (5 April) and CPO (10 March) – and both statuses changed to "in process" and "shortlisted" respectively.

For the shortlisted position (CPO), I've completed the written test (8 May) and the interview (20 May). During the interview, I learned that there will not be another round of interview and that my results would be known 2-3 weeks after the interview.

Fast forward to 2nd week (~4 June) after the interview, CWO status was changed to "unsuccessful" while CPS role remained "shortlisted".

My friend said that usually rejections are sent out earlier than acceptance. But...I'm not sure. Should I be worried..........? :-(

Unregistered 18-06-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138753)
Hello! Would like to hear your opinions/advice on this:

Applied for MSF roles – CWO (5 April) and CPO (10 March) – and both statuses changed to "in process" and "shortlisted" respectively.

For the shortlisted position (CPO), I've completed the written test (8 May) and the interview (20 May). During the interview, I learned that there will not be another round of interview and that my results would be known 2-3 weeks after the interview.

Fast forward to 2nd week (~4 June) after the interview, CWO status was changed to "unsuccessful" while CPS role remained "shortlisted".

My friend said that usually rejections are sent out earlier than acceptance. But...I'm not sure. Should I be worried..........? :-(


Okay nvm........I didn't get selected for the CPO role :-( They did offer me a traineeship instead, should I take it?

Unregistered 18-06-2020 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 138783)
Okay nvm........I didn't get selected for the CPO role :-( They did offer me a traineeship instead, should I take it?

In my opinion, I will take it if i am without employment. You may wish to also ask if there are opportunities for permanent opportunities next time too. Good luck!

Unregistered 18-06-2020 10:15 PM

Hi, would like to check with you has anyone encountered this before, i signed the letter of offer with the HR dept, however on careers@gov it states there that my application is unsuccessful? Sorry for the stupid question just that i am paranoid... kindly advise thank you


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