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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65784)

Got an offer from NUS this year...215k SGD

I kind of doubt the validity of this claim. Is that even a possible salary range for asst profs? Assistant profs aren't even tenured. If an asst prof is taking 215k, what does a full prof make in your field? A million a year? I doubt that universities would even part with that kind of money, unless its a rockstar researcher.

Just take a walk at the carparks of NTU and NUS. The cars there do not look like they belong to people who make that kind of money. Most of the asst profs in my field and university here barely have enough for a car. The only asst prof in my small field that owns a vehicle owns a motorcycle. The rest of us arent even rich enough to get cars.

Tell us more, what field? Subject and specialisation? Or this would be considered simply a false claim.

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Originally Posted by mangos47 (Post 59617)

Most likely you didn't do a phd. If you did you'll know PhD is not about doing things better than undergrad or masters, but about digging very deep in a very narrow area, which usually is of little to no practical value in the near future. When it comes to practical job skills, PhDs are often no better than their peers who joined the workforce early and had earned some experience. In my group, PhD staff design algorithms and build protetype with C, Matlab or even fortran, while the actual development of production code is handled by undergrad staff in java, c++/c# or whatever cutting edge tools there is.

If OP's goal is academia, he can safely bypass c++, java, GPGPU and stuff afer passing the course. he shall instead focus on algorithms, math those theoretical stuff.

You have a delusional mind on your perception of R&D, asxhole.

I realize this forum are full of fake adviser.

Me R&D veteran.

You fcuking hell say that PHD do C while undergrads do C++/C#. You have no fcuking idea what these languages use for.

I am surprise your group throw Java, C++/C# to undergraduate. Your project must be too fcuking simple and full of bug.

The complexity of Java, C#/C++ requires years of years of experience.

You have too low opinion on PHDs. While some may like Matlab, they can be converter to good developer within a relative short period of time.

And the PHDs who do Matlab are mostly the EEEs signal type, and there are CS/EECS type of PHDs who are extremely good in algorithm and programming languages.

This forum is full of liars.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65784)

Got an offer from NUS this year...215k SGD

215K SGD from NUS for an Asst. Prof. position.
PFFFFTTT! Load of bull.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 66162)

215K SGD from NUS for an Asst. Prof. position.
PFFFFTTT! Load of bull.

I work in the HR in NTU three years back.

I can tell you Asst.Prof only get about 80K-100k (excluding bonus)
Assoc Prof roughly get about 120K-180K (excluding bonus).
A full Prof get about 200k-300K

This is considering them without holding appointments in the university.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 66172)

Bonus about extra 2~3 months.

annual package is nothing to shout, but it is the freedom to do the research is what makes it attractive to them. not forgetting each of them have few hundred k of budget just for going overseas conferences, buying laptops, engaging research assistant etc.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65785)

Should also mention that this is an assistant prof position.

NUS assistant prof position at 215k is pure nonsense.

nus biz assistant profs all start at 200k
215 will be non-math depts like organizational behavior or consumer behavior
Fin/Acct will be around 230+

should also mention that S$200k+ for assistant professors in business schools is already slight below average salaries for R1 public schools in the US.

The complexity of Java, C#/C++ requires years of years of experience in a professional capacity. Not a phd capacity. A phd designs new algorithms. Not do more design patterns programming.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 66028)