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Unregistered 16-10-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 258066)
GEO3, have been so for a few years. Had similar experiences and was basically doing work beyond my pay scale consecutively for a couple of years. Raised concerns about promotion but it all boiled down to age. Posted out but just entered another trap in the new school. Crazy marking load, so much so that I cannot even think of performing beyond my pay grade to fight for a promotion. Tired and jaded. Back to marking.

some ppl geo 3 for 7-10 years then promote, some 2-3 years. age as a criteria? serious? jus milking or competition too fierce

Unregistered 17-10-2023 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 258244)
Would appreciate some advice on my situation. My RO hinted to me that I should aim to be an HOD as a possible career goal. Currently I am GEO5 but am not holding any SH positions
I know that if I want to climb I will need to leave the school because the leadership here is very static.

I really like the school that I'm at, it has a pretty good leadership and staff culture which I am not sure that I can find elsewhere. So for me it's having to decide between leaving for leadership opportunities in a different school which may be worse than where I am right now. Or just staying here and accepting that I may not be able to rise despite what my RO says.

To be very frank, some ROs have no idea what they are doing and saying. I must say that it is a very irresponsible statement to make, to ask someone who is not even an appointment holder to “aim for HOD”. What kind of support has been given by him/her to develop you in this aspect? Is this the same sensing that the SLs have? If you like the school and had been getting A/B, you can have a talk with your SLs about possibility of internal appointment if your school practises that. They will be able to shed more light on how and where you can work towards. Positions may appear full, but if they really want you they will be able to make things happen.

Unregistered 17-10-2023 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 257917)
As a CPE, can I or SEAB send feedback about exam personnel to the school?

There are some really committed and capable EP and of course those who simply cmi. I have written in to the P of my IPE/EPE to give praises as well as feedback. Imagine an IPE who couldn’t even sort out the admin and hindered the progress of the examinations. If no feedback is given, the person is likely to continue with the role and cause more harm in the long run. Just use the sandwich approach and exercise tact in the email.

Unregistered 17-10-2023 07:52 AM

Dilemma. Not sure if anyone can shed some light on this.

36 yo male, Geo 5, non-scholar, IP HOD. While I have been told that I am doing great, nothing concrete was ever presented to me to help me understand if I am working towards SL-ship. That is despite the fact that I have expressed my keenness in developing myself further. Perf grades have been a mixture of As and Bs over the last 8 years.

My school has never had anyone going for FHQ.

Question- which is a better choice?
1. Stay in the same school.
2. Apply for HQ posting on my own. How would that make a difference to my situation? Which division would you recommend?
3. Go to another school and take on another portfolio.
4. Try taking a scholarship for masters.

Thank you.

Unregistered 17-10-2023 08:39 AM

Fellow educators, wisen up! All the talk about CEP and extra workload and shining brigtly for others to see. Do all these bring you alot more $$$.? If passion is what ur talking about, then dont complain about the extra load and continue to work hard. Recognition at work goes far beyond just being good at your job. Theres a reason why some ppl climb fast while some dont even though they may be working much harder. Take this piece of wisdom

Unregistered 17-10-2023 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 258321)
Fellow educators, wisen up! All the talk about CEP and extra workload and shining brigtly for others to see. Do all these bring you alot more $$$.? If passion is what ur talking about, then dont complain about the extra load and continue to work hard. Recognition at work goes far beyond just being good at your job. Theres a reason why some ppl climb fast while some dont even though they may be working much harder. Take this piece of wisdom

This is the silliest comment that reflects how narrow-minded one can be. Maslow hierarchy of needs will tell you that it goes beyond passion for one’s needs, and it may not be money that people are going for.

There are MANY reasons why someone goes up the corporate ladder, some may not be that they are doing a good job. This is a forum and people have different experiences and grievances. There are people who slogged and don’t get the due recognitions. You don’t expect life to be a bed of roses, with fabulous SLs and ROs, do you?

Unregistered 17-10-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 258320)
Dilemma. Not sure if anyone can shed some light on this.

36 yo male, Geo 5, non-scholar, IP HOD. While I have been told that I am doing great, nothing concrete was ever presented to me to help me understand if I am working towards SL-ship. That is despite the fact that I have expressed my keenness in developing myself further. Perf grades have been a mixture of As and Bs over the last 8 years.

My school has never had anyone going for FHQ.

Question- which is a better choice?
1. Stay in the same school.
2. Apply for HQ posting on my own. How would that make a difference to my situation? Which division would you recommend?
3. Go to another school and take on another portfolio.
4. Try taking a scholarship for masters.

Thank you.

4 is out for sure. It won't really help you and may even hinder you. For HQ posting, you can try for AD position? That would help to develop you and may put you in the eyes of the senior management if they can push you further. As an IP HOD, would you consider a non IP division so that it expands your understanding further.

Unregistered 17-10-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 258326)
4 is out for sure. It won't really help you and may even hinder you. For HQ posting, you can try for AD position? That would help to develop you and may put you in the eyes of the senior management if they can push you further. As an IP HOD, would you consider a non IP division so that it expands your understanding further.

OP here. Thank you for the insightful comment. Will keep a look out for the posts :)

iodizedsalt 17-10-2023 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 258326)
4 is out for sure. It won't really help you and may even hinder you. For HQ posting, you can try for AD position? That would help to develop you and may put you in the eyes of the senior management if they can push you further. As an IP HOD, would you consider a non IP division so that it expands your understanding further.

Just curious… why would option 4 hinder? Assuming that MOE is sponsoring the studies. Wouldn’t they wanna tap on you more and give you opportunities since they have paid and spent money on you? And being more intentional to develop you?

Unregistered 17-10-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by iodizedsalt (Post 258353)
Just curious… why would option 4 hinder? Assuming that MOE is sponsoring the studies. Wouldn’t they wanna tap on you more and give you opportunities since they have paid and spent money on you? And being more intentional to develop you?

If MOE sponsors, they will tap on you by bonding you to service for a number of years. Your postgrad qualifications may also open some doors for you that require specialised knowledge and skills, like serving specific student profiles or becoming a specialist in certain divisions.

However, it is not necessarily true that if MOE sponsors postgrad studies, you will definitely enjoy accelerated advancement, high profile projects and opportunities to take on higher appointment. You may see some people come back from study leave then start flying, but it is usually because they had already been earmarked for "big things" prior to being sent for further studies.. not the other way around.


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