I bought icon studio at tanjong pager in 2005 at 350k, sold last year at 950k. Also bought oxley one 2rm at 480k, sold 1.3m recently.
It easy to make money in property last time , only 10% down payment.

Reach 50 this year, sitting on 2.5mm cash waiting for next bubble burst to enter again

seldom ngShric
 

Ok, in that case you better work very hard for many years in your life ok?
Work til you die. Good job auntie/ah pek! That's the spirit!

aGSCDn and
 

Ok, I blame myself. Should have bought a 2 roomer with my own $$. I was stupid. I thought of buying only 3 roomers with hubby. That's why woman work, they have the $$ to make their own decision and not be swayed by hubby.

BTW, is the quited comment coming from a fat stay-at-home aunty? I mean, she said 'Aiyoh'.... sounding like shegot fat staying at home, or maybe her sisters became like that or something....?hmm

Sounds easy.

The problem with your younger peers trying to emulate what you did is that they won't have much savings even when the next bubble burst. To buy a modest house and a simple car to raise a family today will wipe out the average couple's savings. Unless they sacrifice a lot to save up for that investment opportunity that may or may not come, they will never be like you.

Many young chaps in this forum already hitting 20k a month by age 35. Multiply by 2 if wife working. Can easily catch up unlike me going into semi retirement

Then this forum is full of outliers.

I thought GCT said average pay is only 3k.

so gullible.. they say and you believe?? I think they also mention their salary is very low...

Aiyoh.. Complaining auntie angry already.. Muwhahahaha... i'm just teaching you how to be a good wife.. Bye, bye auntie.. Remember to go and exercise hor... Women got flabby tummy not pretty one... :) No need to dream about Quartz anymore.. Price won't come down one... Muwhahahaha... You should dream about your waistline "26" instead... hahahaha....

I think u mean i should be more gullible and believe someone whom post here

So everybody making $200k these days?

I'm not aunty ok, I'm =====> Esther and my waist is 25. And I'm here to stay!
How you know women got flabby tummy? You got one? Or your wife got one? Actually men also got one, haha.

Hi all

I am due to have interview with MOE on thursday. Since I've missed the PDGE 2012, (if successful), I'll have to go contract teaching before PDGE.

So, is the salary during contract teaching similar to that during PDGE?

your husband is not a man meh?? hahahaha.. Once again.. this stupid woman has unwittingly insulted her own husband again.. Must be retribution from his past life for your husband to marry such a stupid and complaining woman like you...

Hello Unregistered 20-06-2012, 11:34 AM,

You can expect a S$300-500 Salary hike atleast after your PGDE.

I am also applying for my PGDE, hope you can answer a few questions for me as well:

1. How long after you applied, did you get the interview email/letter?
2. How much notice did they give you for the interview?
3. How do you know that the cutocc for July2012 has enede. What i hear is their orientation is only in 30 July, so you may be able to make it.

Good Luck for your interview and do let me know how it was

Anybody know how much a mid career engineer with 15 years work experience can expect when changing over to teaching? I am interested to know during PGDE and after PGDE salaries.

Mid career switch
 

I am also considering a career switch from engineer to teacher (junior college level). Does any one have a rough estimation of what the salary will be like during NIE and after NIE? My qualifications are a masters of engineering and about 6 years of working experience.

I am thinking if i should study another part time masters of science - if it helps to increase my salary by some amount?

Any teachers out there who can advise me? Thank u.

if with NS, the salary range would be 4.2-4.6k

So funny, the topic is about career as teacher. How did this comment come about?

Mid career switch
 

So will there be a difference in the salary with a masters of science and masters of engineering? Also any diff if teaching in jc and sec sch, assuming same qualifications?

salary range
 

nah.. no diff ba.. they only consider your 1st degree... masters open up yr opportunity to take up leadership roles in sch

The salary for mid-career will varies depends on experience & qualifications (i think)

The one quote above was much higher that what I actually seen.

They have different range and banding. The one I know is $3.8k-$4.4k (this is for 10yrs exp with degree in art...corp coms sector)

So can an engineer with 15 years experience and working as mechanical engineer get around 5.5-6K?

I hear that they now send you for school student teaching first before the next batch of PGDE term.

What is the salary that you can expect when serving as a student teacher, during PGDE and after PGDE? Or is the salary just based on Before PGDE and after PGDE?

5.5K for a untrained teacher??!! No way!! If they pay you that amount, alot of the old timers are going to hang themselves since they had to slog so many years to hit that salary scale..... they should be offering you somewhere around 4k taking into account your zero teaching experience and age.. and that is if they even find you suitable in the first place... Why leave engineering?? Yearning for a high paying job with less work responsibilities?? Must agree that engineers shoulder so much responsibilities for so little money... work in hazardous environments... furthermore the older you get, the less value you can command.. Anytime will get retrenchment cos you are old, slow and expensive... You will not have this type of nonsense in MOE.. somemore salary progression is almost guaranteed every few years...

Anybody knows the salary range for GEO1A1, GEO1A2 and GEO1A3. I heard from a teacher that people with other working experience are actually offered salaries based on these scales depending on their years of experience rather than GEO1A grade.

The contributor previously who had gone for his/her interview on Thursday, please share your experience with us. Thanks!

Scare retrenchment then join as teachers. These is one of the reasons why the quality of our teachers is dropping.

You do not get a choice of which school to teach.

FYI, there are Doctorates teaching in primary schools.

lets keep the thread going... any experienced and existing teachers to share their views?

I'm a current teacher teaching in a primary school. Frankly, if you are a responsible teacher, the salary definately doesn't match the amount of work and effort your have to put in. Generally you are to teach around 35-40 periods per week, not including helping to do relief. Apart from reaching the school around 7-715am, you are expected to carry out supplementary or remedial lessons every week. That's about 2-3 days? Then CCA takes another day. So, on these days, your day ends at about 3pm-4pm. Then, weekly meeting sometimes end around 5pm plus all the courses the school helps you to sign up. Getting pupils to stay back for corrections after remedial takes another hour. Not forgetting the time needed to do marking, setting and vetting papers. Even after staying till 5-6pm, you may still need to work from home! Holidays are spent preparing work, events and attending meetings. That leaves your around 3weeks of holiday after a year of hard work.

Are we paid a lot? No! Many of us stayed on because if our passion in teaching. Of cos there are free loaders in the industry. But at the expense of the children? Thats totally unprofessional. Please don't teach if you don't have the passion to teach. Only the passion can keep you going, not the $$.

Someone mentioned in another thread that teachers can earn 100k per annum before their mid thirties. How true is it?

Not sure about that, but I know many work outside as tuition teachers and earn alot more from that(definitely 100k per annum combined).

So the long hours in school still accord them enough time to moonlight as tuition teachers!

8% increment for teachers
 

Congratulations to all teachers....for the hefty market adjustment of 8%.

I can confirm that a small minority of teachers nowadays are quite havok. Some of course still maintain their puritan image,... but those that are wild, are really wild.

Career as a teacher
 

It's true in a good year, meaning when the economy is good and if the teacher's performance is good. Usually the high performers will be able to earn 100k per year (including bonuses).

Current payscales
 

(This is after the recent 8% increment)

(For beginning GEO1 rates, prob can just refer to MOE website)
GEO1A1: 3380-5540
GEO1A2: 4450-6912
GEO1A3: 4806-7452
SEO1: 5184-8316
SEO1A1: 7236-9288
SEO1A2: 8748-11232

Of course, most teachers max out at GEO1A3. SEO1, 1A1, 1A2 are for SH/LH, HOD, VP ranks respectively.

As mentioned before, pay alone won't sustain you... really need to find the job meaningful to go on. That said, if you think you'll enjoy it, the numbers above should help you make a decision ;)

pay increment from GEO 1.1 to GEO 1A1
 

does anyone know what is the increment for GEO 1.1 to GEO 1A1, not inclusive of annual increment?

Thanks for the info below, very useful.

What I find confusing is the very limited range over the whole career. For eg. let's say I am a good performer who can retire at the max of SEO1A1 monthly of 9288.

If I join MOE at 25 yrs old with standard honors, starting is already ~3400. That means over the next 40 years of my career until retirement, I only have 9288 - 3400 = 5888 to move assuming best case scenario .That works out to be ~2.5% increment annual.

Historically the range increase a few % every few years, but it does not seem to gel with all the stories I keep hearing from my teacher friends about easily getting 6% to 10% yearly. At that kind of rate they would have hit the ceiling before 40 yrs old. This situation is much worse for an average performer who retires at GEO1A3 max of 7452.

Only reason I can think of is they actually slow down the increment a lot in the later years.

Anyone with exp can share?

I got around $500 promotion increment from 1.1 to 1A1.

As for progression, what I hear is that it's not that rare for officers to max out their payscale… I'm nowhere near that stage yet so can't give any first-hand info, though.

Your friends must be still young. MOE is not stupid, they know that an average person from leaving school to late 30s is easy to get jobs & hop around, so they make sure the increase & pay match or exceed outside.

But once you hit 40, they know you screwed. Most teachers >40 no other work experience, got liability, where else can they run? That is when their increment suddenly become pathetic and sometimes don't even get any because max range already. whatever peanut, you also LLST.

My uncle is a retired teacher, he told me for the last 15 years with MOE, his salary just adjust slightly every few years because he long time ago already hit the max.

Then be smart about it. Save up and start a tuition centre with fellow senior teachers. Tuition business will boom like crazy in the next few years cos schools don't do proper teaching anymore - they "teach less" and now encourage kids to "play more".