2015 salary scales
 

The current salary scale doesn't seem to be published anymore. In 2015, there was an adjustment of the scale + increase to pay for teachers. GEO officers got +4%, SEO got +9%. So here are some estimated figures from me, based on old GEO1 degree-holder scales (will be inaccurate for lower GEO1-2 grades, I think):

GEO1: 2000-4340 (+4%?) (Untrained teacher)
GEO2: 2160-4500 (+4%?) (Trained beginning teacher)
GEO3: 3380-5540 (+4%?)
GEO4: 4450-6912 (+4%?)
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5184-8316 (+9%?) (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-9288 (+9%?) (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. VP/MT)

Don't think the salary range was adjusted so simply, though - I can confirm that current GEO5 range is 4903-7845. From 2012, minimum increased 2%, Max increased 5%.

Since this is the highest salary point for the bulk of MOE teachers, think it's the most relevant for financial planning purposes. Do share if you have confirmed scale for other grades? :)

GEO1 is for untrained and trained BTs that are non-grads.
GEO2 is for grads.

No change in payscale for GEO1 and GEO2 officers.

There is actually a change in the GEO2 scale. It is now $2,538.00 - $4,500.00

Not sure about the GEO1 though

i just got promoted to GEO4 in the April ranking exercise. the salary range is 4545-7271

2015 salary scales
 

Updated info, including SEO1 scale I heard from a friend.

GEO1: 2000-4340 (?) (Non-graduate / Untrained graduate)
GEO2: 2538-4500 (Trained graduate)
GEO3: 3380-5540 (+4%?)
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-9288 (+9%?) (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. VP/MT)

Alright, the updated scale is half-done. Anyone else can help verify other grades? (In red)

GEO1: 2000-4340 (?) (Non-graduate / Untrained graduate)
GEO2: 2538-4500 (Trained graduate)
GEO3: 3380-5540 (+4%?)
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-9288 (+9%?) (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. VP/MT)

Are all principals super-scale or a mixture of super-scale and SEO3?

I'm guessing that they are appointed while still a SEO and eventually get promoted to super-scale somewhere along the way. Same as some HODs who get appointed while GEO and eventually get promoted to SEO. So… answer to your question will be: a mix.

some teaching questions here...

1) let's say i make a mid-career switch to teaching n graduate from NTU NIE PGDE. what's my salary like after graduation and what GEO will i be under?

2) on avg, how long does it take to promote from 1 GEO to another GEO? eg GEO 2 to GEO 3...

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Edit:

GEO 1 (Untrained): ??? (Untrained non-graduate)
GEO 1 (Trained): ???? (Trained non-graduate)
GEO 2 (Untrained): 2000 - 4340 (Untrained graduate)
GEO 2 (Trained): 2538 - 4500 (Trained graduate)
GEO 3: 3515 -5616
GEO4: 4545-7271
GEO5: 4903-7845 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
SEO1: 5651-9064 (min. LH/SH/ST)
SEO2: 7236-9288 (+9%?) (min. HOD/LT)
SEO3: 8748-11232 (+9%?) (min. VP/MT)

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Any one out there care to advise on (2)?

Should be ~2 years...

Moonlighting (beyond tuition)
 

Hi all,

Would like to seek advice - if you moonlight 6 hours a week, but not tuition related - is that still somewhat okay?

I quote the very old and oft quoted statement: "Teachers are allowed to take up part-time employment outside school hours, including giving private tuition, only if it does not detract them from the official duties assigned in school. The Ministry's guideline is that such part-time employment should not exceed 6 hours a week."

From: s://.moe.gov.sg/media/forum/2004/11102004.htm

Anyone knows anyone who has done something similar? Just wondering since a side job opportunity came up, and it is also an area I am interested in besides teaching. That being said, I still have a bond/contract to complete.

Thanks :)

is it too late for me to join MOE as a teacher if my age is around 35 to 40 years old?

I don't think it is too late because I have colleagues around the same age which joined after mid-career switch. However, having said that, we face an extremely unfavorable job market this year with many young graduates turning to teaching as their first choice (unable to secure jobs in other sectors). Hence, unless you have relevant experience, chances might be extremely slim since competition is stiffer than usual.

Good luck!

The short answer I can tell you is, if it is genuinely 6 hours a week, then you are safe. Because aside from tuition, I can't really think of any other moonlighting stuff that can keep within this tight boundary. But I hope that you don't be like some of my friends. They started to give more priority to this "moonlight" as compared to their admin duties.. And that, I firmly believe is ethically wrong :)

In light of that, honestly MOE won't be able to find out how many hours per week are you spending on your side job stuff. Hence it is more of integrity and balance. How passionate are you towards teaching vs towards your side job and how much can you commit outside of school without shortchanging your students?

That I agree with you. But must remember there are also genuinely passionate young graduates out there who chose teaching from the start, like me. HAHA :)

Anyway, I feel that the wheat will always be separated from the chaff. Those who do not truly have a passion in it, will suffer a lot, and will leave eventually.

Back to the question. For mid-career switch, usually the salary package etc differs for each individual. This would depend on their years of experience in the previous workplace, position, etc. Exact details are confidential so I wouldn't know. But there are some previous posts with people sharing how much they are getting from a mid-career switch to teaching so you may want to scroll back and have a look.

Opps, sorry for the poor phrasing! I was referring to the unusual surge in applicants as compared to the norm due to poor market outlook.

Yes, I couldn't agree more with you on that point. People without passion really tend to leave quite quickly compared to those with passion. And there are some people who do mid-career switch to teaching for an "easier career to have more time to spend with their kids" but soon realise that's not true at all, haha

Is it possible to take part-time masters while teaching? I understand there is a list of approved masters, but there are some criteria like minimum 2 years of teaching etc. What if you want to study something else by yourself? Need whose approval?

It's possible. There's some criteria, which I can't recall now. You'd probably need the P's approval, although I have heard of cases where the teachers didn't declare they were taking the Masters. But you'd have exams, and might need to take leave, so the P would know eventually.

I'm also interested to know actually, and what kind of masters programme do teachers take. Most teachers simply take masters from NIE, which I would not be very interested in.

I took a masters degree in chemistry at NTU and there were a secondary school teachers who was in my cohort.

She subsequently quit teaching though to help her husband biz once we graduated even though she had been a teacher for more than 10 years.

It is definitely possible. You can either take it through PDL (Professional Development Leave) subjected to Principal's approval, or take it on your own and apply leave as and when you need to.

If you're thinking of part-time, my recommendation is that you talk to the P about it. After all, the P needs to approve your leave for exams anyway. Usually my friends who take part-time masters that is outside of NIE, are just waiting out their bond while getting a masters, so that they will have a master's qualification when they leave service.

However, if you are thinking of moving to the leadership track (superscale etc.) or HQ positions, you should consider Masters offered by NIE, as that will probably escalate you faster.

Oct Promotion
 

Is there a promotion exercise in Oct? If there is by when will we know if we are promoted or not?

There are officers who get promoted in Oct, but these are usually made known by Apr together with the other Apr promotions. I remember getting a letter (through Principal) that basically said something to the extent of "you will get promoted this Oct unless you screw things up".

So if you haven't heard anything by now, think you'll have to wait for next year…

Hmmm so mean those unique cases that got two promotions in a year would have known them both in apr?

No double promotions for individual officers. What I mean is that every year, all promotees (whether getting in Apr or Oct) should know by Apr.

allied educator application
 

Hi
I have applied for MOE allied educator and right now I am waiting for interview outcome. May I know last time how did MOE inform you of the offer? is it through sms or email ?THank you !
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Promotion increment is up on Pac Gov

Students in SG
 

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Is it possible to choose which school level (as in Pri, Sec, JC) to teach under PGDE?

They will decide for you. However, if you prefer another type of institution you can indicate during the interview, they may or may not allow the change depending on nation's needs.

Thanks for the answer! That sounds dangerous. I took the Poly to Uni route. They aren't going to get me to teach JC just because the nation is in desperate need right?

Also, pretty much the entire 2nd paragraph from this page confused me:
nie.edu.sg/teacher-education/practicum/practicum-structure/pgde-pri-sec-jc-programme (add triple w. in front)
Just what do they mean by PGDE (Pri) and PGDE(Sec) equipped to teach 2-3 pri school subjects, while PGDE(JC) equipped to teach 1 JC subject and 1 Sec subject? This means PGDE(Sec) won't be taught the skills and knowledge to teach in any Secondary school subject? I don't know how to make sense out of this. And the last sentence of "do not need to offer academic subjects as they already come into the programme with the relevant content knowledge from their university training" - just what do they mean by this entire sentence?

Seems to be an error - Sec trainees will learn two sec subjects (think might be different for mother tongue teachers).

As for offering academic subjects, I assume they mean taking modules relating to the content knowledge - they assume your degree has covered that already, so in NIE the PGDE will only cover how to teach the subject (and not that much about the subject itself).

One small detail left out from the conversation above, the 6 hours is "SUBJECT TO PRINCIPAL APPROVAL". You have to get permission from your principal in order to do this, but it is basically career suicide. I can't imagine anyone stupid enough to knock on the boss's office and ask for permission to have a second job.

Hi all,

I am an NUS undergrad and i am extremely interested in being a teacher after graduation. However, after reading all the comments here, it seems that MOE is becoming more stringent in their selection of teachers and I am rather worried about this. Although i am giving tuition now to gain more experience, is there other ways to increase my chances of getting selected by MOE? And also, would going for a student exchange programme put me at a disadvantage (or advantage?) for my application in the future? Can any current teachers please advice me on this? Thank you in advance!

Is your passion in
1) helping students do well in academics
Or
2) providing a holistic educations for kids (NE, Technology, communication skills, leadership skills, arts appreciation....)

If it's 2), then yes high chance to be selected

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know how much does a Moe Kindergarten teacher are paid for a degree holder with honours? Can't seem to find any info from the moe website. Thanks!

My excolleague's husband was a secondary school teacher, in a rather poor performing school. It seemed that he devoted much more of his effort into private tuition. I think school teachers should be banned from conducting private tuition due to obvious conflict of interest. Just like ppl working in bank have very stringent control on trading privately.