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Originally Posted by Unregistered
(Post 52061)
I banged your mother for 62k a year too.
All talk nonsense people.
Since you say experience more important, then ignore the cert, dun bother with a degree, go out and work with a diploma, or O level. Be the naïve slaves that you are.
Top notch employers will always look at the cert for all fresh grads. If you want a headstart and be in a pool above the rest, get the best degree available. Otherwise, be like the rest of the herd and wait for your promotion when you do well.
Lets be honest, 5 years work experience for a SIM grad against a 3 year work experience NUS grad, obviously the NUS grad is going to get promoted faster. Want to live in your little delusional little world of "orhhhh experience counts for everything" then please, be the dumb dogs you are.
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A top notch employers knows that the uol is a public university not a 'private' degree. only a third rate moron would call a uol external degree a private degree. :rolleyes:
A top notch employer may also know that the uol is a federal university in london with many colleges. historically, the federal uol conducts semestral examinations for all its colleges, while its colleges are in charge of teaching and students' affairs. just like how someone who goes to bowen secondary, raffles and someone who studies at home all take the same gcse o level papers. today, many of its colleges are universities in their own rights, and conduct their own exams. they have obtained degree awarding powers.
in education, we believe that motivated adult learners can learn themselves. hence, universities usually employ lecturers who have no teaching credentials or techniques to teach adult learners. adult learnings can learn via various modes, be it full time, part time, seminar style, distance, etc. while kids need teachers to entertain them and teach them things from the textbook. whether this is right or wrong is not the issue, this is just how it is currently done.
in fact, honestly, depending on which country you are in and what field you are in, a uol external degree may open more doors than a ntu or smu degree. you may find that employers in australia or the us would be more familiar with 'london' than 'singapore'.
a first class hons from uol is a top notch degree from a well known publicly funded british university. i mean, i would consider you a talent if i saw that degree and if i get the right stuff from you from my interviews with you.
there has been many nobel prize winners with uol degrees while there has been zero with nus/smu/ntu degrees. and i mean zilch. nil. zero. :rolleyes:
well, at least at uol, you can be pretty sure the notes and exam papers and tutorials will all be written in understandable english rather than having some singapore uni singlish lecturer goon (who can't even pass his ielts) torture you with his lectures and one million exams (exams every week) and make you go 'huh' when you read your exam questions because of so many basic grammatical errors.
seriously, walk into any singapore uni and listen to the lecturers. it just shows you how the singapore education system has failed in teaching languages to even a 10 year old standard. and there are other things as well, geography, science, entrepreneurship, business, etc.
excuse me, other than the creative guy, which singaporean entrepreneur is well known in the world?
look at some of the s'porean leaders, especially the older ones, it shows you clearly how the education system has failed them. not just language wise, but also humility wise, and other basic knowledge.
i have no links to uol. i will graduate from ucl soon (not the external programme but the internal one). as far as i am concerned, ucl is ranked 5th to 20th in the world, and the education department is ranked first. however, my first distance learning degree (1:1) from scotland was possibly harder than my ucl masters as far as my personal experience goes.
seriously, the world is such a big place with so many opportunities. as singapore imports 'talents' from mostly third world countries (even fudan's or itt's education are utter crap to be honest, not to mention some manila uni or um) and calls them 'much needed' and 'talents', my suggestion is you improve your own competiveness globally because truly, the world is your oyster with a uol degree and the right skills and experience. especially if you are young.
the idea that 3 years in a good uni can change over 2 decades of lousy education (primary, secondary, high school) in a third world situation where the teaching and absorption of basic science, language, mathematics, etc, is utter crap is just ridiculous. look at singaporean workers from the 60s to the 90s and note the difference in their quality. the young ones in singapore today are even smarter and better than me, and that to me, is a good thing.
