I am currently in absolute agreement if this statement

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Is there any way for moderators to check if someone is just replying to themselves?

It’s like ownself say ownself happy ah?

Maybe moderators can check but public reader cannot.

So for all anyone knows, I could actually be the same person as you replying to my own question.

Yes, ownself say, ownself happy.

I am the same person as you.

Funny… I was going to say the same.

First class honours and second upper honours cannot secure good pay means either your own marketing suck or you needs help with your own career goals. Taking a lowball offer anywhere, moreso in an SME, is really chop carrot and your loss in terms of current and future pay.

So good luck have fun for second lower and third class honours and those without honours. As well not even bother since the disadvantage is big. Hope you have external industrial certifications (AWS, GCP, etc) that might make up for your lack of competency in your course.

I was going to ask if you are cake since I am you and I am cake.

I second lower in tech. Salary still higher than you tho. Go by the book die by the book lmao.

What flavour? Strawberry or chocolate?

Cream flavour

How do you show that you are passionate if your grades don’t show it? Shouldn’t it also show in the grades also if you really were interested and passionate?

Inb4 i aM pAsSiOnAtE iN tEcH i dIeD fOr dAtA sTrUcTuReS & aLgOrItHms bUt hErE aRe mY aWs gCp and aI/mL cErTs tO mAkE uP fOr iT pLs hIrE mE i cAn bE uSeFuL

Brinjal 🍆
Moist also 💦

Haha when someone equates being passionate with getting the best grades you know you this guy is probably some go by the book kinda bookworm. Ppl like you go civil service best bah.

pLs hIrE mE I gOt fIrSt cLaSs hOnOuRs cFm bEtTer tHaN oThErs cAuSe oF mY gRaDes

Did you mean champagne flavour? 🍾 That should be nice and creamy enough for you.

I first class u jelly?????

Damn jelly. First class that amounted to nth in the workplace.

you horny i am sure those lowballing sme bosses would love the bukkake

oh wait maybe they would bukkake on their employees and say this is one of the benefits of fAmIlY 😈

wobbling and twerking yes ultra jelly

In all fairness, I think both grades and external certifications play a part in hiring. Anyone who has gone thru a CS/IS syllabus can tell you that there is so much more to learn outside of the school syllabus like cloud etc. I think the time of using simply your grades to get into the door is over. Employers will look beyond simply the qualifications provided but also at the entire package they are getting. But I have to agree based on my group of friends who are graduating that your honors still play a big part in determining your starting pay.

If a second lower/third wants to try pull a fast one to get in and secure the same pay, I suggest joining hackathons organized by the companies as a way to get noticed. But I'm interested to know which employer is openly hiring in spite of the honors.

I'm from UOL second upper, took a gap year and just got a job offer for $5.3k/month, starting work soon. Don't have past experience from prestigious company or whatever. I admit I am really lucky. But what I want to say to fellow private u grads is try not to follow the crowd, be smart when identifying the industry, be confident and know your stuff but don't smoke your way into the interview. I guess what got me the job Is my relevant internship experiences and I'm able to show that I have the skills required for the job.

Csb enjoy your 3.3k pay

Real MoM statistics.

I keep reading about 5.5K/mth. With 13mth AWS and no bonus puts you about 71k annually. Fresh grads are about this age 25-29. And this is the statistic.

Within the "25 - 29" age group, your gross monthly pay of $71,000
places you at the 99.1th++ percentile among both genders.
You are in the top 0.9% of your cohort.

Suddenly the top 1% of the entire age group in Singapore is in this thread LOL :D :D

Base on IRAS stats 18/19, it can't deviate too much from today.

Annual income of $43,200 is higher than 50.0% of all resident taxpayers.
Considering no AWS and 1 month bonus, 43200/13

Is approximately $3.3K a month
So if you are making 3.3K gross a month, you are in the median of all tax paying residents in singapore.

The CSB are plenty in this forum. And you are an idiot if you believed that without thinking.

My salary really is 5.5k a month…

Kum gong month and year also cannot differentiate. No wonder you underpaid.

Haha its OK if you think I'm bull, initially I couldn't believe it either. Being open minded is a really important trait

Read properly you halfwit.

Assuming 5500x12 +1mth bonus = 71.5k per year

Your annual income of $71,500
is higher than 73.1% of all resident taxpayers.
Congratulations. This means only about 3 out if 10 taxpaying residents are paid higher than you.

Haha you then is the kum gong one wahahaha. He already differentiated monthly and estimate per year liao lah you shoot bird eye izzit??

I believe the 5k / 5.5k because DBS SEED also pays 5k+ and anyone can get in

but look at the bigger picture

DBS SEED ( high monthly pay )
1. no pay bump / title promotion, it's a contract learning job
2. no stocks, no sign bonus, etc. only pay + variable annual pay.
3. no job safety after 2 years, conversion not guaranteed.

Other Tech ( moderate monthly pay )
1. pay bump every year, title bump every 2 years or 1 year half if you're good
2. obviously stocks, bonus, WFH reimbursements, unless you pick some garbage company
3. job safety, not possible to get fired unless your entire team gets re-orged and wiped which is really rare...

What is this seed thing about and why you suddenly talk about it?

Fact is majority of fresh grad pay is still the range compared to decade ago.

Exception applies to certain roles as such graduate programs.

Cheer up man, 3.3k still can save money just eat caipng everyday. Don't overspend as if your salary is really 5.3k!

u are like the annoying kid from poly

always wan ask stupid question , act blur , think he cute

damn cringe, u really dunno what dbs seed that guy talkin about? dont act cute la old man

You sound like an inexperienced fresh grad.

Are you in the correct thread…? Or you quote wrong guy…

Hi you can go here instead

s://forums.salary.sg/income-jobs/12886-dbs-tech-seed-programme.html

Erm what’s the link loool

We not taking about tech… this is business thread..

Cause the thread topic deviated / got hijacked. Only OP is business fresh graduate the rest all sound like boomers.