How much to ask for starting pay for those graduating in 2021?
Local uni, expected 2nd upper - Business course
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About $2800 will be reasonable given that the SGunited jobs pay $2500.
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Not first class? Probably 2.5k to match with the traineeships
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If it's a serious question, tell us what role at least?
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$2500 will be damn sad. It's the same price as 10-15 years ago.
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If avg traineeship pay 2.5k means u should also expect 2.5k dont care if u what upper or lower nonsense
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Else, it’s always reasonable to bargain for $3,125/month as the bare minimum you would go as a fresh grad regardless of which industry you break into. Reason? Traineeships offer an allowance of $2,500, it would be irrational to take up an offer lower than the readily available alternative. Time may seem bleak but you’ll get a job eventually. :) I’m a local uni fresh grad too. |
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3.1k so low? GES median is at least 3.5k. those graduate programs salary got cut this year too?
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There are many that won't tell the truth, or blow up numbers to make their school look like it should command a higher salary. You will also be competing with people doing traineeships, what makes you think you can command a higher salary than them? Face it, anything than the top graduates after 2020 will have it really hard. |
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My HR sent me few resumes of local grads that state expected salaries of 2.5k and below for interviewing. Think there are alot of ppl looking for jobs. |
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The real question we should be asking is if we want our local grads to rot under an SME that provides 0 growth or opportunities. |
I see ignorant fresh grads posting here. SME contributes 50 percent of the GDP and hire 70 percent of the workforce. The employees (especially fresh grads) should be grateful to business owners who are capable to start a business and employ you guys. Without the SMEs, who is going to employ you all? You guys are just lucky that the good government stepped in to offer you all some protection. In a real world, 2K can get us a master/phd hirees with experience. Some still want to ask for 3K? My view is 2.5K is already a good enough salary. Stay hungry. Pls read and learn from the boss abt his interviewing experience with the 7 employees and learn some lessons from it.
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Don’t listen to all these boomers.
Any offer below 3.2K (which is equivalent to a traineeship), it’s probably a shithole place of a job. When all else fails, just swallow up your pride and join Big 4 audit. Even though the pay and working hours is bad, it still has way more growth opportunities than working in a pathetic SME that can’t even afford to pay you the market standards. |
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"without SMEs, who is going to employ you all"? PLEASE. NOBODY WANTS TO WORK IN YOUR COMPANY OTHER THAN MALAYSIANS AND OTHER NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES. FFS. this attitude is EXACTLY why SMEs remain SMEs and i choose to join a global firm and shun SMEs. talk so much about hunger. why not speak for yourselves - why is your company so poor and shitty that you have to whine about not being able to pay a decent wage? i don't see large companies scrimping on wages. REFLECT. |
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Before feeling entitled to some 8am to 9pm labour for 2.5k, ask yourself why would anyone choose an SME with **** conditions over MNC with 9am to 6pm hours for 4k. Then SMEs will realise they only get the "leftover people". The one law of capitalism is that u get what u pay for. Doesn't matter if its an item or labour, pay cheap, expect to get low quality labour. |
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$2.5K is low. Just less than a year ago, fresh grads are getting $3.5k. I dont see how a few months of experience can justify the difference of $1k salary. They are probably going to get the same job done at the same level...
But aside to the fresh grad asking this qn, $2.5k is better than no job. For fresh grads, experience is very important. Therefore, dont just go for any job. Choose a job that you see yourself in the long term, choose a job with many transferable skills. Good luck! |
idiots still don't realise this is the post-covid labour market.
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There are really really good SMEs out there that I’m willing to work for free like Omnistream, Otto Solutions or family offices in the AM field.
But honestly most of the SMEs and their technology illiterate upper management indeed have the backdated mindset of “seniority precedes skill” mindset. I once did clerical work for a small SME that deals with import and export of industrial wearables on a part-time basis. All the manual data entry could honestly be streamlined. I once impressed the old aunties when I used NumPy to draw out financial statement data from EDGAR and performed visualizations with it. Flexing aside, early this year (pre-COVID) the boss offered me a pathetic starting salary if I were to convert. I rejected it and was for about 4 months till I got into a graduate scheme with InfoSys. Not the best out there but it still beats working at that SME. Point is.... to the freshers out there, know your skills and technical competencies, never shortchange yourself. |
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ST just reported the following. Is situation really that bad? Honestly none of the people I know are affected by Covid-19, mostly just staying at home rather than going to office and many are enjoying the extra time saved!
The number of employees placed on shorter work weeks or temporary layoffs rose to an unprecedented high of 81,720 in the second quarter, as firms battled the fallout from the Covid-19 pandemic. Locals - that is, Singaporeans and permanent residents - formed the bulk of the 42,190 employees on short work weeks, while foreigners were the majority of the 43,720 on temporary layoffs. The seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate for Singaporeans rose steadily over the quarter and reached 4.3 per cent in July, up from 4 per cent in June and 3.5 per cent in March. MOM said it started collecting unemployment data monthly since April, and will release the figures monthly from here on, instead of quarterly, in an effort to better inform policy decisions. The unemployment rate for locals rose to 4.1 per cent in July, up from 3.8 per cent in June and 3.3 per cent in March, while the overall unemployment rate - for locals and foreigners combined - rose to 3 per cent in July, up from 2.8 per cent in June and 2.4 per cent in March. |
For $2.2k, I can hire a masters graduate with 7 years work exp.
If you are fresh grad with 2nd upper, I think $1.5k will be a good offer. |
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Would like to send my resume over. I am good with 1.5K and even lower! As a fresh graduate, we need to stay hungry! #yaogui #stayhungry |
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2601 at the minimum! |
Nowadays, $2.5k considered very high already for FCH Fresh Grad. Be grateful!
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Traineeships he hiam salary too low... |
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Last year my SME boss gave himself new BMW and buy additional condo but give us rank-and-file serfs 0.5% inflation increment. Feel so happy for him that I tell all my friends his achievements and bonuses are like mine since we helped him achieve it, just like I feel very rich when our country’s GDP growth go up.
This year covid so I mortgaged HDB to give back to my company and took no pay from the start of the Circuit Breaker to today. Young people these days should put country and company before self and not be so selfish if we want to rise above this economic slump. Touch your heart and don’t be so selfish. ‘Knowing your worth’ is just another way of saying that you are selfish. Remember, if boss buys new condo and can afford to give you raise, you must reward him with OT every day. Needless to say our SME doesn’t believe in paying for trainee/internships because freshers will have nothing of value to contribute so they should be grateful that we even give them this opportunity. |
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#yaogui #hungriest #freshie |
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