Now the economy is very bad. Some of the banks have started to rescind their job offers, suggest you take up MAS offer and worry less down the road.
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As with government service, the prospects of everyone differs and is generally as such:
1) Top Tier - MAS / Presidents' Scholar (who transfer from other ministries) 2) Second Tier - First Class Honors Fresh Grad who join MAS direct from School 3) Third Tier - Other Second Class Honors Fresh Grad who join MAS direct from School 4) Bottom Tier - Mid Careers The tiers shown above generally shows a person's "potential" which have a direct relationship to your promotion, opportunities, bonus and pay. The difference between the bonus between the top tier and the bottom tier can be significant - i.e. at least 2.5 months difference. While they purport to be competitive in terms of pay and benefits and perform yearly benchmark exercises, do note that they generally benchmark against support functions such as Operations and HR salaries in banks. The benchmark exercises do not include the money makers such as front office (which make sense since not all MAS officers are money makers), and not even risk management functions such as internal audit or compliance (this does not make sense however). Perks wise - The flexibility to take no pay leave is unrivaled. Best for mothers who wish to have such flexibility. |
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The number of trolls here is such a joke. There are many instances of MAS scholars that promoted slower than the mid careers. Seriously, please read this forum with a huge pinch of salt.
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E.g. Go for the bank offer if it is MA program, Front Office, Trading, Sales, IT related. Go for MAS if the bank offer is Operations, Compliance, Credit/Risk Analyst. |
Oh just passing by to prop a useful advice to all those “Central Banking” enthusiasts:
Note that MAS Graduate Officers merely play a peripheral role to the central bank. Policy making and quantitative analysis are oftentimes given to officers from MTI’s Economist track that are seconded to MAS. Don’t get baited. :) |
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MAS is safe, prestigious. More exit opportunities. Ops is a dead end career. No progression and easily replaced by automation |
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Prestigious? Maybe I guess. Exit opportunities? Probably if you’re doing licensing or compliance for challenger banks. An ops role with a bulge bracket is never a dead end career and is miles better than working with MAS unless you’re in MTI’s Economist track. Do you even know what ops encompasses? KYC, equity sales, debt issuance and etc. will forever be industry relevant skills in the finance sector. |
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I did my internship in JP Morgan ops back in 2016. KYC? Will be automated. Equity sales? You kidding bro? You do know you aren't actually doing the sales. Stop lying to yourself. You're just double checking credit limits, executing the trade and consolidating reports. Ops is back end and will be offshored from Singapore. it will be dead end in 5-10 years time. In terms of prestige, both are prestigious enough. MAS, if supervision role, probably can jump to compliance roles? If policy dept, can progress further. Maybe end up in politics. Anyhoo, both seem like back office roles to me so just flip a coin and move on. |
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Yes, menial tasking such as data pulling and fact-checking will be automated. But you still need these back office chaps to facilitate a client's trading systems to make sure they're properly plugged into the platform, or negotiating with the client's finance team to make sure they understand the kind of pricing the team can offer. I’ll give it to you, any quant buy-side hardo role will better than ops but we’re comparing working in BB Ops vs a MAS pencil pusher and honestly, the former clearly has better career trajectory. |
MAS Career switch
Hi all , to those that have worked in MAS, in need of your advise. i am getting around 12k now working in a bank. Is it wise to make a switch to MAS ? Are they able to pay the amount of salary i am having now or even more than that ? Thanks in advance.
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But do bear in mind that most people's careers are determined by what they start doing. Somebody in Ops can transition to sales but it's not easy. Someone doing Ops generally will stay in Ops for long term. Hence, it is important to consider the long-term aspects of the role. Automation does not just affect Ops, it affects trading as much. So other than job satisfaction, do think long term whether the job will still be around in the future. Be it outsourcing or automation. |
Hi everyone, has anyone received an offer for the graduate officer position? I went for the interview in March but haven't heard back since.
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if you have not received an offer for the Graduate office position then most likely you've been rejected... most offers were already sent out 2 months ago.
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What is the average increment year on year for MAS?
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Just log in and click? |
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what does it mean? |
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How is the progression like? Assuming average performance, can I expect 10k a month in 10 years?
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thanks in advance! |
Associate: 0-3 years
AD: 3-10 years DD: max level for normal people. scholars or very high performers can go the next level. |
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I don't think my pay is very high at all. DDs can get $10k, almost double of young ADs. |
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AD can be Level 11 or Level 12 (13 is the lowest, for graduate officers). AD can also be a Team Lead, and they will get more bonus. The pay increment is only significant to move up Level 11 from Level 12. Else, not significant cause it's not a promotion. |
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