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Soul 01-08-2012 07:50 PM

MAS for Mid Career Professionals
 
Hi, any one can offer advice about getting in to MAS as a mid career professional?

Profile early 30's about ten years working
Degree (honours 2nd upper)
Mainly sales background in banking

Cons: been moving jobs around 2 years but generally above average performer.

I understand the process can take a few months?

Generally the JD advertised doesn't say too much and they ask for 1-3 years experience min required.

I put a friend as referral who's an AD.. But I doubt that helps.

[email protected] 01-08-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul (Post 27244)
Hi, any one can offer advice about getting in to MAS as a mid career professional?

Profile early 30's about ten years working
Degree (honours 2nd upper)
Mainly sales background in banking

Cons: been moving jobs around 2 years but generally above average performer.

I understand the process can take a few months?

Generally the JD advertised doesn't say too much and they ask for 1-3 years experience min required.

I put a friend as referral who's an AD.. But I doubt that helps.

You need to be more specific about your exp, can't tell much if you just say 10 years sales exp & mid career. At least let us know what jobs & seniority level you are on for the past few years.

Also what job did you apply for in MAS?

As for your AD friend referral (I assume he is from MAS or other stat board?), better not put it. AD is just a fancy title for an assistant / entry level manager & it looks kind of silly putting someone who is probably more junior then you as a referral.

Soul 01-08-2012 11:14 PM

Hi [email protected],

Thanks for your reply

1) My last role was a team lead role in retail banking serving the high net worth client space (e.g. for example within the portfolio, we managed AUM ranging from from 200k to 10m). Generally the duties would include sales and advisory of investments, business development efforts for client acquisition, training, AML oversight, KYC and ensuring regulatory compliance of documentation.

2) Applied for role in Business Development under Financial Sector Development

3) by the looks of the car and landed property, I'm quite certain my friend who works at MAS isn't in a junior role maybe different departments have a different pay scale or grade? However that isn't my rationale for wanting to join MAS.

[email protected] 02-08-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul (Post 27254)
Hi [email protected],

Thanks for your reply

1) My last role was a team lead role in retail banking serving the high net worth client space (e.g. for example within the portfolio, we managed AUM ranging from from 200k to 10m). Generally the duties would include sales and advisory of investments, business development efforts for client acquisition, training, AML oversight, KYC and ensuring regulatory compliance of documentation.

2) Applied for role in Business Development under Financial Sector Development

3) by the looks of the car and landed property, I'm quite certain my friend who works at MAS isn't in a junior role maybe different departments have a different pay scale or grade? However that isn't my rationale for wanting to join MAS.

Hmm... seems like you were a priority / private banker previously. Not sure what exactly is your motivation for joining MAS, but I'm fairly certain they will not be able to come close to matching your remuneration, so I hope you are prepared for some serious pay cut.

I can see some skill portability in terms of experience, but am not very sure MAS exact requirement for this job, so I would say there's a decent chance although my personal opinion is they are a little apprehensive over people from foreign banks. They are also quite into the nature of your degree, so your chances will be better if it's the 3 local U or the Tier 1 U in Australia & it is Finance related.

I don't want to speculate on how your friend finances his car & property, but I am fairly certain AD is a junior position in MAS, this is applied uniformly throughout all departments. Many departments don't even have managerial grade, it's Associate straight to AD. The high potentials would have already reached AD in their late 20s.

In fact based on your experience you should also be applying for an AD level position as well. If you have applied for something below like Manager / Associate, they are likely to scrutinize and probe you on your over qualifications and your motivation to take a paycut & job downgrading.

Soul 02-08-2012 12:36 AM

Hi [email protected],

Thanks for your reply.

1) Yes I'm prepared to take a pair cut. Money was never a huge motivation for me in the first place. Let's just put it this way, I averaged 13-14 hour at work and often worked weekends. Health wise and family it wasn't positive. For expected salary I put in a number that was about 10% lesser than my last drawn basic. I was afraid of being priced out before getting an interview.

2) I have a degree majoring in finance however that was through an EQIUS accredited university in Ireland. I'm in the process of enrolling to Manchester Business School's Global MBA program. But I don't think that will make jack of a difference.

3) any reason why they are apprehensive about hiring from foreign banks? I have heard about private sector poaching MAS staff though..

4) thanks for your insights maybe I got my friend's designation wrong. But anyway a few other questions I want to ask

5) is there a good chance getting an interview? Or does HR have a pre-determined cut off eg min 2:1 degree. No distance program degree. Etc
The website also states its ok to apply for multiple roles. Is that true?

Do you think other areas such as financial sector supervision would be a good fit also?

Unregistered 02-08-2012 12:13 PM

you were a pte banker for 10 years & quote an expected salary that is only 10% below last drawn for a MAS BD job!?!?!?

either you are one super poorly paid pte banker or your CV is already in the rubbish bin. you will need at least 50% reduction to be pay competitive, that is assuming you are applying for a AD job.

Unregistered 02-08-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 27266)
you were a pte banker for 10 years & quote an expected salary that is only 10% below last drawn for a MAS BD job!?!?!?

either you are one super poorly paid pte banker or your CV is already in the rubbish bin. you will need at least 50% reduction to be pay competitive, that is assuming you are applying for a AD job.

Not totally impossible.

Since he is a team leader in the FO of a foreign bank & 10 years work experience, his last job is maybe a higher end VP. Without bonus basic salary should be 12k - 15k in the market.

He mention reduce asking pay by 10%, so that will be 11k - 13.5k, that is roughly the range of a Director in MAS like a small department head, so still possible.

But chances are quite low since he doesn't have a branded degree or prestigious MBA, besides it is very rare for MAS to hire early 30s people into Director level.

Soul 02-08-2012 03:32 PM

Thanks all. You guys are either very optimistic or I'm grossly underpaid. Are those numbers just base and excluding variable?

What's a fair salary base for an AD level role then?

I'm looking at AD level roles not director level though. But you mentioned the requirement of a branded degree or MBA to even get a chance?

Guess I'm should stick the the private sector huh?

Unregistered 02-08-2012 04:16 PM

Read carefully. He was doing retail sales previously. If not a PFC in some neighborhood branch, then probably investment product team.

6-8k max was his last drawn.

Unregistered 03-08-2012 12:43 PM

Hmmm....

How much was your last drawn ?

Are you on bonus or commission ?

I guess 10 yrs experience maybe can ask for around 10k ? but also must depend on your last drawn and whether you are on bonus or commission.

Unregistered 03-08-2012 01:34 PM

AD in MAS is max. around $7K basic

Soul 03-08-2012 03:05 PM

Thanks. I guess in order to be pay competitive, will need to reduce to around 7k. By the way would you know generally for an average person, aws and bonus would work out to around how much? Just need to do my sums. Could we assume around 14-15 month package overall?

Unregistered 03-08-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul (Post 27297)
Thanks. I guess in order to be pay competitive, will need to reduce to around 7k. By the way would you know generally for an average person, aws and bonus would work out to around how much? Just need to do my sums. Could we assume around 14-15 month package overall?

7k for AD is close to max, unless you have something special to offer, you should be going for ~6.2k to be competitive.

Overall package is usually 15-16 months.

Soul 03-08-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 27302)
7k for AD is close to max, unless you have something special to offer, you should be going for ~6.2k to be competitive.

Overall package is usually 15-16 months.


thats steeper than I thought. total package under 100k. Thanks so much for the insights.

hardgay84 20-10-2013 02:11 PM

How much does a senior policy analyst earns at MAS?
 
Hi all,

I would like to find out how much policy analyst earns at MAS? I used to be an economist in a research house for 4 years and am looking to move to MAS?

From my understanding, an Assistant Director earns 84k so how much does a policy analyst earn, given that the responsibilities of the role would be more senior than that of an AD?

Thanks a lot for all your kind help and advice.

Cheers

Unregistered 20-10-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hardgay84 (Post 44111)
Hi all,

I would like to find out how much policy analyst earns at MAS? I used to be an economist in a research house for 4 years and am looking to move to MAS?

From my understanding, an Assistant Director earns 84k so how much does a policy analyst earn, given that the responsibilities of the role would be more senior than that of an AD?

Thanks a lot for all your kind help and advice.

Cheers

Where did you hear that a policy analyst is more senior than a AD in MAS???

Unregistered 20-10-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 44113)
Where did you hear that a policy analyst is more senior than a AD in MAS???

Policy analyst is a Sr Director grade in MAS

Unregistered 23-03-2014 12:09 PM

Wannabe
 
Hi, if i have 7 years relevant experience in the banking sector, and I apply to MAS, what title/grade are they likely to offer me? And pay range?

My basic now before 2014 increment: 6.5k (excl bonus)

Local uni 2nd upper hons

Considering Capital mkt Intermediaries/Conduct depts

Thanks!


Regards

Unregistered 18-05-2017 11:24 AM

anyone with knowledge can share for average performer in MAS, how much bonus can be expected?

also, what would be the typical monthly salary for entry-level deputy director in MAS?

compare to banks, how big is the pay gap for same function/experience?

thanks

Unregistered 23-05-2017 09:20 PM

Average is between 4-5 months.

Unregistered 24-05-2017 12:55 PM

Bridleway AVENUE
 
how long it takes for an average performer joining fresh with say first class honor to reach 10k/month in MAS. what grade/title likely is that salary?

Unregistered 26-05-2017 11:07 PM

As mentioned in a previous post, MAS' bonus is high. So depends on your 10k per month is including or excluding bonus.

Including bonus, and depending on the economy, as the bonus is also dependent on Singapore's economy, it may take you around 6-8 years to reach 10k per month.

Excluding bonus, my guess is that it would take at least 10 years for an average performer.

Unregistered 02-06-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97639)
As mentioned in a previous post, MAS' bonus is high. So depends on your 10k per month is including or excluding bonus.

Including bonus, and depending on the economy, as the bonus is also dependent on Singapore's economy, it may take you around 6-8 years to reach 10k per month.

Excluding bonus, my guess is that it would take at least 10 years for an average performer.

do you know on average how many months' of bonus in MAS for average performer?

Unregistered 05-06-2017 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97788)
do you know on average how many months' of bonus in MAS for average performer?

In recent years the bonus has shrunk. Avg would be ard 3-4 months. MAS does not hv aws component. In short, not much different from pte on a 15 month package

Unregistered 05-06-2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97823)
In recent years the bonus has shrunk. Avg would be ard 3-4 months. MAS does not hv aws component. In short, not much different from pte on a 15 month package

I will also add that it depends on the economy. So if our GDP grows faster than expected, you can expect 1 month more. Similarly if we hit recession, it may be 1-2 months less.

Unregistered 26-06-2017 09:57 AM

Is the bonus of 3-4 months inclusive of group bonus? Heard there is both group and variable bonus payout

Unregistered 26-06-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 98267)
Is the bonus of 3-4 months inclusive of group bonus? Heard there is both group and variable bonus payout

In total besides 12 month basic salary, one should be able to get another 6 months +/- of additional pay in most years.

Unregistered 26-06-2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 98269)
In total besides 12 month basic salary, one should be able to get another 6 months +/- of additional pay in most years.

Wow 6 months is a lot! Assuming I join MAS as an assistant Director. May I know how long it takes for an average performer to promote from Assistant Director to Deputy Director and from Deputy Director to Director? Is it true that you need to rotate every 3 years to be promoted?

Thanks for your kind advice!

Unregistered 01-07-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 98269)
In total besides 12 month basic salary, one should be able to get another 6 months +/- of additional pay in most years.

U wait long long 😂
Your info must be from 10 yrs ago
Nowadays if you can get 16 months pa u can laff liao
Grp bonus ard 2 months on avg. so pb 1-2 months norm for avg performer
If economy no gd then grp bonus reduce

Unregistered 01-07-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 98278)
Wow 6 months is a lot! Assuming I join MAS as an assistant Director. May I know how long it takes for an average performer to promote from Assistant Director to Deputy Director and from Deputy Director to Director? Is it true that you need to rotate every 3 years to be promoted?

Thanks for your kind advice!

If u r joining as mid career expect ur promo to b slower than most.
Director only for the hand picked ones. Majority end up as dd

Unregistered 01-07-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 98355)
If u r joining as mid career expect ur promo to b slower than most.
Director only for the hand picked ones. Majority end up as dd

Not true based on my exp. DD is more common but definitely not the majority, out of the whole deg career stream I would say only abt 1/4 get promoted to DD in the end.

Unregistered 02-07-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 98358)
Not true based on my exp. DD is more common but definitely not the majority, out of the whole deg career stream I would say only abt 1/4 get promoted to DD in the end.


What?!?! You mean there's the possibility of being an assistant director from start to finish?! Zero promotion is insane.

Unregistered 05-07-2017 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 98358)
Not true based on my exp. DD is more common but definitely not the majority, out of the whole deg career stream I would say only abt 1/4 get promoted to DD in the end.

Dats bcos many got tired of waiting and left for the greener pastures of corporate world. Usually the younger peeps. The super old birds, who stay long enough, eventually got their dd. Mid career hires progression is not sped up just becoz they r more experienced...

Unregistered 31-07-2017 09:28 PM

Monetary authority of singapore (MAS) graduate officer
 
Does anyone know what is the starting salary for mas graduate officer? Is it standard for all graduates?

Unregistered 01-08-2017 07:29 PM

Got an interview appointment at mid August for the position AD.

J.D put min 3 years experience.
Any special tips or "must" look out for during the interview?

Unregistered 25-08-2017 01:41 PM

May we know when did you submit an application on the Careers Gov portal?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99154)
Got an interview appointment at mid August for the position AD.

J.D put min 3 years experience.
Any special tips or "must" look out for during the interview?


Unregistered 14-10-2017 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 99775)
May we know when did you submit an application on the Careers Gov portal?

Nope, from the website portal directly. Got offered and I had accepted the offer.

Unregistered 17-10-2017 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 100943)
Nope, from the website portal directly. Got offered and I had accepted the offer.

How long did they take to inform you of the offer after your final interview?

Unregistered 18-10-2017 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 101009)
How long did they take to inform you of the offer after your final interview?

Verbal indicative offer, next working day.
Final black&white offer takes about 2-3 weeks.

Unregistered 25-11-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 101028)
Verbal indicative offer, next working day.
Final black&white offer takes about 2-3 weeks.

So if by the nxt day you nv received any call means likely you are rejected?
The hr still informed that need to wait 1-2 weeks for reply. :(


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