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Unregistered 30-03-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny85 (Post 115702)
made some clarification with him. Spot on. He was indeed at the ceiling of IPS5.

just curious. Is it even possible to push someone to the next IPS band when his salary has not reach the ceiling say $400 away? was wandering if he was promoted last year then maybe he could have avoid this poor adjustment?

i think his cep is quite good. he been telling us he is constantly getting the excellent band. That why he cannot take it this time when he got the same band but such sucky "promotion increment" while the rest of us are just good and very good haha ...

Sometimes I think it is better to study and interview for a HR post and screw everyone up. I mean they are doing it now. LOL.

So many permutations in respect of Time, Grade, Salary, Salary ceiling, Performance.

Some with great performance and a more decent grade with greater responsibilties but a mere increment.

Some with slightly off performance with a better grade with lesser responsibilities but a very very decent salary.

Unregistered 30-03-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115721)
Sometimes I think it is better to study and interview for a HR post and screw everyone up. I mean they are doing it now. LOL.

So many permutations in respect of Time, Grade, Salary, Salary ceiling, Performance.

Some with great performance and a more decent grade with greater responsibilties but a mere increment.

Some with slightly off performance with a better grade with lesser responsibilities but a very very decent salary.

exactly man! a number of lecturers are already looking out for greener pastures since its not that relaxing anymore .. with the increasing CET courses coming in ... just the irritating 3 months notice

Smart888 31-03-2019 12:05 AM

As far as I know for those promoted from ips5 to ips6, the difference is less than $600, after long wait for the hard earned promotion, u will hit the ceiling in about 2 years.
I wonder the HR or the person that introduced ips considered this at all. Don’t make any sense at all.

Johnny85 31-03-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Smart888 (Post 115759)
As far as I know for those promoted from ips5 to ips6, the difference is less than $600, after long wait for the hard earned promotion, u will hit the ceiling in about 2 years.
I wonder the HR or the person that introduced ips considered this at all. Don’t make any sense at all.

yeah sia .. the IPS range from IPS6 to 7 is totally ******** .. He also shared that the director give his the letter personally and told him that the ~3% increment is a poly wide movement ..

not sure how true is that but he is definitely looking out already haha

Unregistered 01-04-2019 07:33 AM

Yes increment onwards is (2-4%) $120-$300
Seems IPS system is worse off than old PAX system (5-12%) $350-850

It is just 60 - 80 dollars more than merit increment.

Sad case for people below IPS 7.
I have seen young generation hired as IPS7/8 with self proclaimed years of experience.

Unregistered 01-04-2019 11:05 AM

Designation in ITE and Poly
 
IP5 - Assistant Manager
IP6- Assistant Manager
IP7 - Assistant Manager
IP 8- Deputy Manager
IP 9- Deputy Manager

Going through several interviews now at the respective ITE and polytechnic. Is the above correct? How come IP8 is not manager but a deputy manager? Strange no?

Unregistered 01-04-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115843)
IP5 - Assistant Manager
IP6- Assistant Manager
IP7 - Assistant Manager
IP 8- Deputy Manager
IP 9- Deputy Manager

Going through several interviews now at the respective ITE and polytechnic. Is the above correct? How come IP8 is not manager but a deputy manager? Strange no?

IPS5 is not Assistant Manager is Fresh Graduates

Different place different title. Important is the offer.
IPS8 is already Senior Manager to Deputy Director level
How experience & qualification u got?

Unregistered 01-04-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115823)
Yes increment onwards is (2-4%) $120-$300
Seems IPS system is worse off than old PAX system (5-12%) $350-850

It is just 60 - 80 dollars more than merit increment.

Sad case for people below IPS 7.
I have seen young generation hired as IPS7/8 with self proclaimed years of experience.

Understand that there is always a market adjustment every 2 to 3 years? Can only hope they do smth to those pple below IPS7 is compensated for it. Else it's quite sad to see passionate pple leaving..

Anyone has any idea if this year will have some adjustment? Heard the last round 2015 no change haha

s0lidus 04-04-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115854)
Understand that there is always a market adjustment every 2 to 3 years? Can only hope they do smth to those pple below IPS7 is compensated for it. Else it's quite sad to see passionate pple leaving..

Anyone has any idea if this year will have some adjustment? Heard the last round 2015 no change haha

The range is open to everyone for reference

IPS13 12500-17510
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS11 8330 - 11660
IPS10 7470 - 10085
IPS9 6450 - 9060
IPS8 5660 - 7800
IPS7 4900 - 6800
IPS6 4240 - 5870
IPS5 2800 - 5300
IPS4 2548 - 4251
IPS3 1811 - 3346

Every level has at least 905 gap increase except for IPS5 to IPS6 which is 500+

People who are IPS6 and lower are getting little increment and promotion increase and will reach ceiling within 1-2 years.
The system is obviously flawed or meant to force employees to leave because no increment.

They need to review and change the system.

Unregistered 04-04-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by s0lidus (Post 116248)
The range is open to everyone for reference

IPS13 12500-17510
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS11 8330 - 11660
IPS10 7470 - 10085
IPS9 6450 - 9060
IPS8 5660 - 7800
IPS7 4900 - 6800
IPS6 4240 - 5870
IPS5 2800 - 5300
IPS4 2548 - 4251
IPS3 1811 - 3346

Every level has at least 905 gap increase except for IPS5 to IPS6 which is 500+

People who are IPS6 and lower are getting little increment and promotion increase and will reach ceiling within 1-2 years.
The system is obviously flawed or meant to force employees to leave because no increment.

They need to review and change the system.

The next review will be done from May - Jun 2019.

Smart888 04-04-2019 10:33 PM

R u sure this year review? Where did u get the source from?

If ips 6 adjusted upwards, ips above 6 will be adjusted as well.

Johnny85 04-04-2019 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 116252)
The next review will be done from May - Jun 2019.

I sincerely hope its not a belated April's fool joke haha ..

Quick poll, if you guys were in the shoes of my colleague, would u all approach HR to clarify on why the promotion increment is lesser than the usual increment despite attaining the same performance band? things like maybe maybe possibly a mistake somewhere?

TIA

Unregistered 06-04-2019 08:18 AM

Doubt there is any review, why would they do that?
Now Ite and poly are cutting down man power.
System is meant to keep you like a running rat.

After that people leave with either contract expiry or unhappiness of having zero increment.
Young people or foreign talents will helicopter in at IPS7 or higher.

FYI IPS doesn’t require qualifications anymore.
Long working years experience and lies can allow you to helicopter in.

my place, joined a lady IPS7 with 10 years experience and only dipolma. About 30 years old.
Heard she is drawing 6k+ and I am only IPS5 and 40 years old.
Seems my army doesn’t count and my degree isn’t worth anything.

What unfair treatment is this?!
Worked for 4 years still contract & just promoted from IPS5.

Unregistered 07-04-2019 07:00 PM

Are you in poly or ITE. 4 years still contract?
You should be offered a tenure at year 3, 6 mths before your 2nd contract is up right?
My personal experience, hired at AX5A, convert to ips6, promoted to ips 7 all within 3 years.
Maybe your performance not so ideal in your department.

Johnny85 07-04-2019 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 116394)
Doubt there is any review, why would they do that?
Now Ite and poly are cutting down man power.
System is meant to keep you like a running rat.

After that people leave with either contract expiry or unhappiness of having zero increment.
Young people or foreign talents will helicopter in at IPS7 or higher.

FYI IPS doesn’t require qualifications anymore.
Long working years experience and lies can allow you to helicopter in.

my place, joined a lady IPS7 with 10 years experience and only dipolma. About 30 years old.
Heard she is drawing 6k+ and I am only IPS5 and 40 years old.
Seems my army doesn’t count and my degree isn’t worth anything.

What unfair treatment is this?!
Worked for 4 years still contract & just promoted from IPS5.

Mind sharing how much % was your promotional increment ? TIA

Unregistered 11-04-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny85 (Post 116546)
Mind sharing how much % was your promotional increment ? TIA

I already long hit ceiling. Merit is $0 and promo is 3.3%

So there is no meaning.

And 5 years ago I joined at PAX6
12 years industrial experience, stuck at cap salary.
was upgraded to IPS6 recently.

Johnny85 11-04-2019 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 116772)
I already long hit ceiling. Merit is $0 and promo is 3.3%

So there is no meaning.

And 5 years ago I joined at PAX6
12 years industrial experience, stuck at cap salary.
was upgraded to IPS6 recently.

Wa .. so bad .. meaning you were stuck at ceiling for 5 years ?
You in Poly or ITE ?

Btw its true that HR is doing a review ... Lets hope the salary review is adjusted for IPS6 personnel..

Press on !

Unregistered 17-04-2019 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny85 (Post 116855)
Wa .. so bad .. meaning you were stuck at ceiling for 5 years ?
You in Poly or ITE ?

Btw its true that HR is doing a review ... Lets hope the salary review is adjusted for IPS6 personnel..

Press on !

really? which poly HR?

Unregistered 17-04-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 117156)
really? which poly HR?

IPS8 $5,660-7,800
IPS7 $4,900-6,800
IPS6H ????????
IPS6 $4,240-5,870
IPS5 $2,800-5,300
IPS4 $2,548-4,251
IPS3 $1,811-3,346

Anyone know the range of IPS6H?

Unregistered 17-04-2019 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 117177)
IPS8 $5,660-7,800
IPS7 $4,900-6,800
IPS6H ????????
IPS6 $4,240-5,870
IPS5 $2,800-5,300
IPS4 $2,548-4,251
IPS3 $1,811-3,346

Anyone know the range of IPS6H?

If i didnt rmb wrongly, ips6H mean same as AX5 still need to clear bar to reach 6800.
And if you renew contract you will automatically be converted to IPS.

Unregistered 18-04-2019 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 117156)
really? which poly HR?

Yes, is poly not ITE. SG is small easily found
Yes still on contract not permanent after 5 years+

Unlucky Merit how good also 0 increment because hit ceiling years back.

Somehow boss loves boot lickers

Smart888 25-04-2019 03:18 PM

IPS5
IPS6
IPS6H
IPS7
IPS8H

Are there changes in the scheme?

Anyone can input the salary range?

Thanks.

Unregistered 24-06-2019 01:35 PM

Scale and Pay?
 
15 years experience in teaching (6 years part time lecturing in poly)
foreign degree
now planning to take up FT teaching in ITE
so roughly the pay and which scale?

Unregistered 24-06-2019 03:52 PM

ite grad. how much is the pay for nursing? career wise any bonuses?

Unregistered 12-07-2019 08:31 PM

Zap Zap Kaboom!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 116527)
Are you in poly or ITE. 4 years still contract?
You should be offered a tenure at year 3, 6 mths before your 2nd contract is up right?
My personal experience, hired at AX5A, convert to ips6, promoted to ips 7 all within 3 years.
Maybe your performance not so ideal in your department.

I've been in polys and now adjunct - more than a decade of experience in the poly circuit. I'd like to point out that your example and other's are different because the system is very flawed and dependent upon a number of factors. Realistically, I'm not expecting the system to be perfect, but however due to it's flawed nature, the discrepancies can be big. I believed you have a good manager, or good management within your department, appreciative and strong presence, plus some unique factors that allowed you to be 'promoted' fast. Your pace of promotion is uncommon but not unrealistic as I have witnessed it more than once. I do have colleagues who received the shorter end of the stick, and I myself have experienced that too, never mind how much we have contributed, our deep experience - or even single-handedly contributed important things. The team/school within the institution can be very punishing, and in time, one will realized that another school/team ain't like that, but too bad, those are different fields. This is also the reason why some schools/teams have higher turnover rates while others are 'over-flowing'... all within the same institution.

Unregistered 23-07-2019 04:17 PM

Some has helicopter in as IPS 7 and IPS 8 and they are China or India foreigners with empty promises of able to do this and do that.

Their tactics is like get into the organization first with lies and obtain high posts.
Then after they just come in sit there be statute do nothing. Every month get salary of 6.8k to 7k plus.

When people like me join 10 years rose from IPS 5 and acting manager.
Always hit ceiling with zero increment for 4 years.

The system is flawed.
The gap of increment is only $40-80 dollars with C+ B grading.

Unregistered 23-07-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 121590)
I've been in polys and now adjunct - more than a decade of experience in the poly circuit. I'd like to point out that your example and other's are different because the system is very flawed and dependent upon a number of factors. Realistically, I'm not expecting the system to be perfect, but however due to it's flawed nature, the discrepancies can be big. I believed you have a good manager, or good management within your department, appreciative and strong presence, plus some unique factors that allowed you to be 'promoted' fast. Your pace of promotion is uncommon but not unrealistic as I have witnessed it more than once. I do have colleagues who received the shorter end of the stick, and I myself have experienced that too, never mind how much we have contributed, our deep experience - or even single-handedly contributed important things. The team/school within the institution can be very punishing, and in time, one will realized that another school/team ain't like that, but too bad, those are different fields. This is also the reason why some schools/teams have higher turnover rates while others are 'over-flowing'... all within the same institution.

I worked more than 4 years, to be exact 6 years.
Have stucked at PAX6 and changed to IPS5 for 5 years.

Increment zero dollars.
Promotion increase $40 dollars from ceiling bar.

renewed 4 times still contract. Boss likes indians and china foreigners too.
Very strange hardworking workers give up and leave one by one.
Local foreigners join and leave immediately after see the politics and "group politics" of individual sections.

The IPS system has divided the PAX into 2 to further delay the promotion.
Unlike early pioneers PAX4 to 3 is double jump in salary.

Now is not. Fresh graduates seems to fly in at IPS 7 getting 5k flat.

They need review the grading system based on experience, qualifications, age, expertise, amount of work and performance.

Everyone just asks for Managerial position with no experience or knowledge.
After they leave less than 2 years or contract not renewed because they fail to perform as expectation.

Horrible grading IPS System

Unregistered 12-08-2019 01:03 AM

Tenure
 
Is there increment for getting contract renewal/tenure?

Unregistered 12-08-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122586)
Is there increment for getting contract renewal/tenure?

Not sure about tenure but definitely no for contract renewal.

Unregistered 14-08-2019 12:06 AM

Hi peeps, Any idea when hr will release the news of the salary review? Last heard they start reviewing in June. TIA

Unregistered 14-08-2019 11:28 PM

Will be out before elections

Unregistered 17-09-2019 08:53 PM

Haha.. Nice one.. Polytechnic No news on adjustment yet.. :(

Unregistered 03-12-2019 02:51 PM

see from Year-end AVC, i feel the adjustment is unlikely to happen....

Unregistered 07-12-2019 12:12 AM

Variable component?
 
If the appointment letter says gross monthly salary is $x including y% variable component. How much should I expect to take home per month?

Unregistered 21-12-2019 10:38 PM

Is that a dy Manager post?

meiiy 22-12-2019 04:16 PM

are time bad now? I heard poly/ite are not recruiting admin staff and looking at reducing head counts?

Unregistered 03-01-2021 09:10 PM

Procedure to get hired as a lecturer
 
I suffer from low blood pressure and the doctor at the health screening seemed concerned.

Does this result really affect my chances of getting employed as a lecturer?

I understand that nowadays stat board credit to you a certain amount to buy own health insurance, so this health screening is more of a formality.

Anyone managed to fail due to health screening? Such as heavy smokers.

Unregistered 11-01-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 152497)
I suffer from low blood pressure and the doctor at the health screening seemed concerned.

Does this result really affect my chances of getting employed as a lecturer?

I understand that nowadays stat board credit to you a certain amount to buy own health insurance, so this health screening is more of a formality.

Anyone managed to fail due to health screening? Such as heavy smokers.

Generally it doesn't matter. They just want to know if there are any exclusion for the group insurance.

I had the same problem HR just informed me of the findings, and welcome me to accept the offer.

Unregistered 14-03-2021 08:16 AM

What IPS and role u applied for?

Unregistered 18-03-2021 10:38 PM

TE & Polytechnic Executive (IPX)-ST -> Any idea what is this?


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