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loming 13-03-2017 09:36 PM

ITE Polytechnic Scheme
 
Has anyone heard of this merger for all the academic and non academic staff for all the polytechnic and ITE staff

Isn't unfair for non graduate to compete with the graduate colleagues

Unregistered 13-03-2017 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loming (Post 95550)
Has anyone heard of this merger for all the academic and non academic staff for all the polytechnic and ITE staff

Isn't unfair for non graduate to compete with the graduate colleagues

The current scheme, people complain graduate has a better career path while non-graduate path is limited. Now open to have 1 single track, also complain. wtf

Unregistered 14-03-2017 06:03 AM

Salary and PB is different that why he compliant . WTH

Unregistered 16-03-2017 10:11 AM

Anyone knows whether the nomenclature of designations will be changed? e.g. officer --> manager

Unregistered 16-03-2017 12:54 PM

What is the new merged system like? Like the type of grade system that is used?

Unregistered 19-03-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95633)
What is the new merged system like? Like the type of grade system that is used?

No more PAX, MSS, TSS.

Using number. Top rank is '1', while lowest entry is '16'. Fresh uni grad should enter at 14 or 15, while non-degree holder is at 16. I suspect most realistic CEP is 9.

Unregistered 20-03-2017 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95757)
No more PAX, MSS, TSS.

Using number. Top rank is '1', while lowest entry is '16'. Fresh uni grad should enter at 14 or 15, while non-degree holder is at 16. I suspect most realistic CEP is 9.

will those joined as diploma holder then subsequently got a degree be placed in the uni grad ranking?

Unregistered 20-03-2017 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95757)
No more PAX, MSS, TSS.

Using number. Top rank is '1', while lowest entry is '16'. Fresh uni grad should enter at 14 or 15, while non-degree holder is at 16. I suspect most realistic CEP is 9.

shldnt it be like MX scheme?

dip = 14 to 16
degree = 13 to 12
masters / phd = 12 / 11 n above?

Unregistered 21-03-2017 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95788)
will those joined as diploma holder then subsequently got a degree be placed in the uni grad ranking?

Moving up the grade will be based on performance already. So, this is how this scale works, without degree, you could still outperform a degree holder and move up the scale. It doesnt mean that if you are diploma holder, you will be stuck at one grade below the grade for degree entry.

Unregistered 24-03-2017 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95757)
No more PAX, MSS, TSS.

Using number. Top rank is '1', while lowest entry is '16'. Fresh uni grad should enter at 14 or 15, while non-degree holder is at 16. I suspect most realistic CEP is 9.


Actually, everything the salary scheme is revised, it gets worst.

In 2008, they removed 14 days of annual leave in exchange for a 1 time adjustment of 6% and introduced the bar in a salary band. Before that a salary band has no bars.

Now, in 2017, they hardened the bar to become a ceiling. Previously, to cross the bar, for those grades at Pax 4 and below, all that is needed is 2 consecutive years of C+. Now to cross the bar that has become a ceiling of IP8, you actually need to get promotion...

It's very bad actually....

And not forgetting, the Govt owes us 1 adjustment which they gave to MOE in August 2015 & said they were evaluating the polytechnic pay scales and after .the 2015 elections, decided not to give any to us.... that was worth about 6% or so....

Unregistered 24-03-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95932)
Actually, everything the salary scheme is revised, it gets worst.

In 2008, they removed 14 days of annual leave in exchange for a 1 time adjustment of 6% and introduced the bar in a salary band. Before that a salary band has no bars.

Now, in 2017, they hardened the bar to become a ceiling. Previously, to cross the bar, for those grades at Pax 4 and below, all that is needed is 2 consecutive years of C+. Now to cross the bar that has become a ceiling of IP8, you actually need to get promotion...

It's very bad actually....

And not forgetting, the Govt owes us 1 adjustment which they gave to MOE in August 2015 & said they were evaluating the polytechnic pay scales and after .the 2015 elections, decided not to give any to us.... that was worth about 6% or so....

agreed, the only ppl to benefit from this lj scheme are the non-begree holders. :mad:

Unregistered 24-03-2017 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95932)
Actually, everything the salary scheme is revised, it gets worst.

In 2008, they removed 14 days of annual leave in exchange for a 1 time adjustment of 6% and introduced the bar in a salary band. Before that a salary band has no bars.

Now, in 2017, they hardened the bar to become a ceiling. Previously, to cross the bar, for those grades at Pax 4 and below, all that is needed is 2 consecutive years of C+. Now to cross the bar that has become a ceiling of IP8, you actually need to get promotion...

It's very bad actually....

And not forgetting, the Govt owes us 1 adjustment which they gave to MOE in August 2015 & said they were evaluating the polytechnic pay scales and after .the 2015 elections, decided not to give any to us.... that was worth about 6% or so....

I'm so close to crossing the bar (which is an increment away) and now it becomes a ceiling......where is the justice in this ?

Unregistered 24-03-2017 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95939)
I'm so close to crossing the bar (which is an increment away) and now it becomes a ceiling......where is the justice in this ?

anyone has more info about the scheme...say current MSO or Senior officer of different grades will be mapped to which grade in the new scheme?

Unregistered 27-03-2017 11:30 AM

partial IPS ranges


IPS6 4240-5870
IPS7 4900-6800
IPS8 5660-7800
IPS9 6450-9060
IPS10 7470-10085
IPS11 8330-11660
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS13 12500-17510

Unregistered 27-03-2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96010)
partial IPS ranges


IPS6 4240-5870
IPS7 4900-6800
IPS8 5660-7800
IPS9 6450-9060
IPS10 7470-10085
IPS11 8330-11660
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS13 12500-17510

So ips1 is the lowest grade now?
I suppose this range is same across the all poly and ite.

Unregistered 27-03-2017 11:35 PM

Lowest rank: IPS1
Highest rank: IPS15
Bulk of MSO and TSO will be mapped to IPS1 to IPS5.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96010)
partial IPS ranges


IPS6 4240-5870
IPS7 4900-6800
IPS8 5660-7800
IPS9 6450-9060
IPS10 7470-10085
IPS11 8330-11660
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS13 12500-17510


Unregistered 28-03-2017 10:01 PM

The IPS scheme benefits the top 3 Pax and Bottom rung.
As usual the sandwiched class suffers. The former PAX 1,
2 and 3 enrich themselves with higher ceiling in the IPS in the order of 3 digits,
while the rest gets miserable 2 digit increase in the new IPS ceiling.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96031)
Lowest rank: IPS1
Highest rank: IPS15
Bulk of MSO and TSO will be mapped to IPS1 to IPS5.


Unregistered 28-03-2017 11:32 PM

mapping PAX to IPS ?

Unregistered 29-03-2017 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96010)
partial IPS ranges


IPS6 4240-5870
IPS7 4900-6800
IPS8 5660-7800
IPS9 6450-9060
IPS10 7470-10085
IPS11 8330-11660
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS13 12500-17510

Any ideas on IPS5?

Unregistered 29-03-2017 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered (Post 96090)
any ideas on ips5?

2800-5300...

Unregistered 30-03-2017 01:41 PM

Full Salary Scale
 
Anyone know the full salary scale?

Unregistered 30-03-2017 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 95939)
I'm so close to crossing the bar (which is an increment away) and now it becomes a ceiling......where is the justice in this ?

Look at it another way. If you manage to get promoted (and thus break the ceiling), you will have a promotion increment whereas you would not have this additional increment if you just cross the ceiling.

Unregistered 31-03-2017 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96122)
Look at it another way. If you manage to get promoted (and thus break the ceiling), you will have a promotion increment whereas you would not have this additional increment if you just cross the ceiling.

Think staff has the option to retain the old PAX scheme, instead of opting for the new IPS. For those near bar, isn't it better to retain the old scheme, since it is easier to cross the bar, than to cross the ceiling in the IPS?

Unregistered 01-04-2017 01:03 AM

Query
 
Hi, a friend of mine recently is promoted to PAS4 at a polytechnic. However, her designation remains as Lecturer, instead of Senior Lecturer. Is this normal?

Unregistered 02-04-2017 11:28 PM

Mapping

5 abov BAR - IPS 7
5 at or below BAR - IPS 6

do your own extrapolation. I think the info is already in the HR website of the respective schools.

Unregistered 05-04-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96191)
Hi, a friend of mine recently is promoted to PAS4 at a polytechnic. However, her designation remains as Lecturer, instead of Senior Lecturer. Is this normal?

Just an update. My friend told me that her designation had been updated to Senior Lecturer.

Unregistered 07-04-2017 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96010)
partial IPS ranges


IPS6 4240-5870
IPS7 4900-6800
IPS8 5660-7800
IPS9 6450-9060
IPS10 7470-10085
IPS11 8330-11660
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS13 12500-17510

what is the typical retirement grade for a farmer?

Unregistered 07-04-2017 03:54 PM

Ips9

.

Unregistered 07-04-2017 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96456)
Ips9

.

so i would assume that IPS10 is DD/ subject head and above?

Unregistered 15-04-2017 12:19 PM

hi everyone,

just wondering what is the pay like for a male graduate with honours and 2 years plus of relevant experience? Thanks!

Unregistered 15-04-2017 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96696)
hi everyone,

just wondering what is the pay like for a male graduate with honours and 2 years plus of relevant experience? Thanks!

if local degree, 3400 to 3800

Unregistered 15-04-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96459)
so i would assume that IPS10 is DD/ subject head and above?

IPS10 could be AD/DD

Unregistered 18-04-2017 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96708)
IPS10 could be AD/DD

How about IPS12?

Unregistered 07-06-2017 01:44 AM

Ips4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96090)
Any ideas on IPS5?

How about IPS4? Is IPS4 for diploma holders?

Unregistered 14-08-2017 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 97861)
How about IPS4? Is IPS4 for diploma holders?

Yes IPS4 is normally for diploma holders, although some degree holder might be emplaced on this grade

Salary scale: 2548-4251

Other remaining ips grade salary scale

Ips 3: 1811-3346
Ips 2: 1614-2944
Ips 1: 1239-2690

Unregistered 23-08-2017 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96010)
partial IPS ranges


IPS6 4240-5870
IPS7 4900-6800
IPS8 5660-7800
IPS9 6450-9060
IPS10 7470-10085
IPS11 8330-11660
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS13 12500-17510

What about the other ranges?

Unregistered 26-08-2017 12:24 AM

Hi, in private sector, wud like to noe how its like to work in ITE/Poly ? What is da workin hrs like ? 830am to 6pm ? Is it stressful environment for non-academic position?

Unregistered 07-09-2017 11:31 PM

Assistant Manager / Deputy Manager will be placed in IPS 8 or 9?

Unregistered 14-09-2017 09:57 AM

HI

In your opinion what is the viable range and IPS peg at for a degree holder with 10 year experience for the lecturing position?

Unregistered 14-09-2017 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 96010)
partial IPS ranges


IPS6 4240-5870
IPS7 4900-6800
IPS8 5660-7800
IPS9 6450-9060
IPS10 7470-10085
IPS11 8330-11660
IPS12 11320-15282
IPS13 12500-17510

Hi, in your opinion what is an average amount for lecturer position who just enter the job in poly teaching with degree and 10 years odd experience teaching at Private sector?


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