different kind of rewarding lah. either you get die poor with lots of karma and come back as andy lau in next life. or you die rich with no karma and reincarnate as chinatown litigator

Definitely marketing. They're also recruiting for the new public defender's office as well as the general shortage of criminal defence lawyers because it simply isn't a lucrative practice area.

AGC has no lack of talent pool of prospective hires, because there's still a cachet of prestige working for the govt / Singapore Legal Service (nothing prestigious compared to international firms obv, but it's not that far off from big 4, and definitely leaps and bounds ahead of your run-of-the-mill local midtier and chinatown sweatshops).

It should be noted that SUSS grads were supposed to fill this shortage of criminal defence lawyers, but to absolutely nobody's surprise at all (since there's no restrictions on which areas they can practice), most SUSS law grads would simply use their education as a 'backdoor' way of getting a recognized local LLB on the cheap despite being NUS or SMU rejects, and join the more lucrative practice areas.

The best route as a crim defence lawyer is to work in one of the white collar crim defence teams in the big firms, like Chentils, Sashi, Wendell's or Chee kun's, then jump to do regulatory, investigations and fraud in an international firm.

Uh. The BCL is definitely harder than the Llm in Yale/Harvard. Everyone knows if you want a good time go do your LLM in the states.

In any case, not like you can get in/study at any of these unis before.

Criminal law is fun. I love making prosecutors lives difficult and always claim trial.

I agree. BUT difficulty in the program is in this case very much inversely co-related with difficulty in admission and brand prestige.

No get in no talk. I also everyday dream can go Cambridge LLM but rejected

Yeah, despite being academically harder, the Oxford BCL and Cambridge LLM are easier to enter than say the HYS LLMs, given that UK unis don't give a crap about your extra-curricular activities. You essentially just need a 1st from any random university.

Conversely, for the HYS LLMs, you need to tell a story of how you're so amazing that rainbows shoot out of your ass, whether through your extra-curricular activity or some made up life story.

This discussion is moot for almost 95% of law graduates.
Since they will simply never get Oxbridge or Harvard LLM.
Beyond Harvard and Oxbridge LLM, yes the top 50% of law graduates will essentially qualify

What if you have to go against former JLCs from Oxbridge ? Good game

TMT Drew
 

Any opinions about Drew's TMT department?

Exit options to intl firms / in house?

What about AGC? Who would be the people to shadow or learn from? Can you ask to work with specific individuals like an SC or their top litigators when you apply? And would working with such people be equally marketable if you decide to go out to practice after? Or does it not work the same way?

No point. Low chance of transition to intl firms. Based on past record.

Go A&G’s M&A or something - best chance to go intl firm

Lol stop the hero worship. Ive gone up against former JLCs, SCs and equity partners and won. If the facts and the law are in your favour, it is easy.

so many nus grads this year joining nyc law firms straight asia's top law school

So what if i worship JLCs who are from Oxbridge?

Best still if they succeed and are in Intl firms.

My idol

Good lor they go enjoy with NY tax rates

Better deal than going for JLC

The work in NYC is still miles ahead of the work here, in terms of scale and complexity. It’s a reflection of the market maturity and size of the economy. Working in NYC is probably better exposure and may be a good choice for young lawyers, even after factoring the crazy rent and high tax.

Its only complex because us laws are whack. But agreed 2-3 years there = can lateral into anywhere.

also good in a non white shoe firm?

Salary scale
 

1 PQE corp assoc looking to move to the bigger firms. What is the salary range for the Big 4, SLB/Rodyk/WKW

Only White Shoe US firms pay the full “NY rates salary”

heya, have you gotten any advice about some of the other international firms or FLAs?

Is it possible or feasible to lateral to those firms as a 1PQE corp assoc or is it generally only possible to move to Big 4/Shook Lin/Dentons Rodyk/Morgan Lewis Stamford, etc?

heard lsc got their pay revision tdy. any details?

pay slip
 

hey learned friend, no actually, but yes I am also open to that switch and am looking at the payscale.

Big bumps for the jiak liao bees

Why not consider ML or TSMP?

Why would anyone want to go to TSMP? What is ML?

Would consider ML, but not TSMP. Probably wouldn’t fit the mould.

How is ML and it’s salary range

“Its”,

Jeez quality of big4 nowadays

Big bump for JLBs can match with big4 ?

What is the tsmp mould?

I think I went for the TMT interview on the same day as you. Have not heard back from them since, were u offered a TC already from them?

Someone that SYT would like, basically.

nq 5500
1pqe 6,800
2pqe 7500
3pqe 8000
4pqe 9500

Doubtful. ML is a top US law firm paying cravath. Please dont spread falsehoods.

Care to elaborate? Am heading there soon so doing my research.

ML in Singapore is Stamford la. A mid tier firm. They seem to hv lost some mojo since the LSF saga

Work arrangements
 

How’s the work arrangements like in Big 4, DRD/SLB/MS/WKW and offshore firms?

Disgruntled assoc in mid size going to office daily only for partner to MIA and give instructions through phone calls.

Hoping to switch to the above firms soon

Why not TSMP? they are still a top corp firm after the big 4