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temp111 12-11-2014 10:17 PM

Civil Service Year End Bonus.
 
Any rumours guys?

How much will be Dec AVC be?

Last yr was 1.1

Unregistered 13-11-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by temp111 (Post 58717)
Any rumours guys?

How much will be Dec AVC be?

Last yr was 1.1

News will be out around 20+ Nov.
Should be 1 month AVC.

temp111 13-11-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58733)
News will be out around 20+ Nov.
Should be 1 month AVC.

from which source u heard bro?

Unregistered 13-11-2014 12:21 PM

rumour is that this year >1.5 close to 2

Unregistered 13-11-2014 12:35 PM

1 month in addition to the 0.5 mid year.. so total of 1.5 similar to last year.. just my prediction

temp111 13-11-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58740)
rumour is that this year >1.5 close to 2

Rumours from where? The source must be reliable lah.

Unregistered 13-11-2014 07:11 PM

so kan cheong for wat... when it comes it comes... u hearsay liao so wat? if too low u wan go on strike meh?

Unregistered 13-11-2014 08:15 PM

this year will be pathetic cos they keep the firepower for 2015, the last bonus before 2016 GE

Unregistered 13-11-2014 08:42 PM

CS year end bonus nothing to shout about. Embarrassed even to talk about with my friends in private sector

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58751)
so kan cheong for wat... when it comes it comes... u hearsay liao so wat? if too low u wan go on strike meh?


Unregistered 13-11-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58751)
so kan cheong for wat... when it comes it comes... u hearsay liao so wat? if too low u wan go on strike meh?

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered 13-11-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58759)
CS year end bonus nothing to shout about. Embarrassed even to talk about with my friends in private sector

Must give context. If you compare with banking, oil & gas industry etc., yah maybe CS bonus is nothing to shout about.

But CS separates its bonus over the course of the year, i.e. PB in April, Mid Year Bonus, and Year End Bonus. Overall, just an average performer can get about 3.5-4 months, while good performers can even exceed 6 months (all inclusive of 1 month AWS). While again, nothing to shout about, it is still very decent. Private includes SMEs, where some don't even give bonus to begin with. In fact, even some of the big MNCs do not give out much bonus.

I'm not in CS, but honestly I don't it's at the point of being embarrassed to talk about with your friends..

temp111 13-11-2014 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58751)
so kan cheong for wat... when it comes it comes... u hearsay liao so wat? if too low u wan go on strike meh?

Fark lah. Just ask cannot meh.

U got prob???

Beepork 13-11-2014 10:35 PM

Firdaus getting angry already. Still try to bluff people working in SME hahaha.

temp111 13-11-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Beepork (Post 58764)
Firdaus getting angry already. Still try to bluff people working in SME hahaha.

??? U got the wrong person sorry.

i not in cs anyway. Asking for my fren

Unregistered 14-11-2014 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by temp111 (Post 58762)
Fark lah. Just ask cannot meh.

U got prob???

no. ur retardation is not my prob.

Unregistered 14-11-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58761)
Must give context. If you compare with banking, oil & gas industry etc., yah maybe CS bonus is nothing to shout about.

But CS separates its bonus over the course of the year, i.e. PB in April, Mid Year Bonus, and Year End Bonus. Overall, just an average performer can get about 3.5-4 months, while good performers can even exceed 6 months (all inclusive of 1 month AWS). While again, nothing to shout about, it is still very decent. Private includes SMEs, where some don't even give bonus to begin with. In fact, even some of the big MNCs do not give out much bonus.

I'm not in CS, but honestly I don't it's at the point of being embarrassed to talk about with your friends..

Agree. CS is not bad, every year average bonus is about 2-3 mths excluding AWS which is fairly decent by market standards.

Banking good bonuses are only to the FO/MO, which is like maybe 20% of the whole bank population. Majority of the BO/Branch Ops guys get only 1-2 mths and don't even get AWS.

Oil & gas is as usual filty rich with cash like nobody's business, any industry in public or private sector compared to them will look embarrassing anyway.

Unregistered 14-11-2014 02:44 PM

You guys really know to take things out of context.

The starting thread was on year end bonus for CS. And my answer was that the year end bonus is nothing to shout about. Typically it includes the 13th bonus and a quarter month more.

You guys then added / expanded topic to the whole year bonus and spiced it up with your off-target arguments.

Hope you guys are not working in the CS. Cannot read questions properly and anyhow hantam answers. If you guys are in CS, I can understand why public unhappy with CS answers to their questions.


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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58777)
Agree. CS is not bad, every year average bonus is about 2-3 mths excluding AWS which is fairly decent by market standards.

Banking good bonuses are only to the FO/MO, which is like maybe 20% of the whole bank population. Majority of the BO/Branch Ops guys get only 1-2 mths and don't even get AWS.

Oil & gas is as usual filty rich with cash like nobody's business, any industry in public or private sector compared to them will look embarrassing anyway.


Unregistered 14-11-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58784)
You guys really know to take things out of context.

The starting thread was on year end bonus for CS. And my answer was that the year end bonus is nothing to shout about. Typically it includes the 13th bonus and a quarter month more.

You guys then added / expanded topic to the whole year bonus and spiced it up with your off-target arguments.

Hope you guys are not working in the CS. Cannot read questions properly and anyhow hantam answers. If you guys are in CS, I can understand why public unhappy with CS answers to their questions.

Firstly, CS year end bonus excluding 1 month AWS was 1.1 month in 2013, meaning a total of 2.1 months. So I don't know where you get you AWS plus a quarter month more.

Secondly, if you want to narrow down to just "year end" bonus, many private companies only give AWS at the end of the year, and other variable bonuses are given at the end of fiscal year in March or April. So if that's the case, CS actually has a lot to shout about come end of the year compared to some private companies.

And hence, why in this case when I mention context, it's because it's pointless if you only compare year end without looking at the bigger picture.

Are you sure you are working in CS? Because I think if so you've just proved your own statement to be true.

Unregistered 14-11-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58784)
You guys really know to take things out of context.

The starting thread was on year end bonus for CS. And my answer was that the year end bonus is nothing to shout about.

Nice try. You did not just stop at "nothing to shout about". In fact earlier you expilictly said "embarrassed even to talk about with my friends in private sector".

There is a big difference between what you are trying to downplay now with your earlier bombastic statement. People are now calling you out and asking you what exactly is so embarassing about talking to people from private sector on what is otherwise a reasonable bonus if you look at it holistitcally.

Instead of substantiating your arugments with solid market observations, you try to subtly downplay what you said earlier by claiming that it was only nothing to shout about. Nothing to shout about, everyone agrees, but enlighten us now, why exactly should we be embarrassed in front of our friends about civil service bonus be it 1 particular payout or 1 calendar cycle payout?

Unregistered 14-11-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58794)
Nice try. You did not just stop at "nothing to shout about". In fact earlier you expilictly said "embarrassed even to talk about with my friends in private sector".

There is a big difference between what you are trying to downplay now with your earlier bombastic statement. People are now calling you out and asking you what exactly is so embarassing about talking to people from private sector on what is otherwise a reasonable bonus if you look at it holistitcally.

Instead of substantiating your arugments with solid market observations, you try to subtly downplay what you said earlier by claiming that it was only nothing to shout about. Nothing to shout about, everyone agrees, but enlighten us now, why exactly should we be embarrassed in front of our friends about civil service bonus be it 1 particular payout or 1 calendar cycle payout?

At the end of the day, got bonus can already.

Unregistered 16-11-2014 06:19 PM

You ask me how I know?!

You ask us how we know?!

Go and ask those who know lah!

How I know who know?

You ask me who know how I know?

temp111 18-11-2014 06:13 PM

Any news????

Unregistered 18-11-2014 08:08 PM

so gan cheong for what, based on past practice, psd should announce the quantum this thursday. just wait two more days lo..

Unregistered 18-11-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58964)
so gan cheong for what, based on past practice, psd should announce the quantum this thursday. just wait two more days lo..

Let the count down begin!

2.......

temp111 18-11-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58967)
Let the count down begin!

2.......

Hahahahahahaha

Unregistered 18-11-2014 10:40 PM

AWS is 1 month

bonus likely to be 0.8 -1.0 month as next year will be election

temp111 18-11-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58972)
AWS is 1 month

bonus likely to be 0.8 -1.0 month as next year will be election

Bonus so little?

Last yr dec avc is 1.1 leh.

if next yr election suppose to be higher than 1.1 rite?

Means the range u state from 0.8 to 1.0 is too little?

Unregistered 19-11-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by temp111 (Post 58974)
Bonus so little?

Last yr dec avc is 1.1 leh.

if next yr election suppose to be higher than 1.1 rite?

Means the range u state from 0.8 to 1.0 is too little?

no, last dec was 2 month excluded the july avc

temp111 19-11-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58983)
no, last dec was 2 month excluded the july avc

What talking u?

For 2013:

July AVC: 0.4

Dec AVC: 1.1

13th mth aka NPAA (Non-Pensionable Annual Allowance) = 1 mth

since when dec was 2 mths last yr?

Unregistered 19-11-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by temp111 (Post 58986)
What talking u?

For 2013:

July AVC: 0.4

Dec AVC: 1.1

13th mth aka NPAA (Non-Pensionable Annual Allowance) = 1 mth

since when dec was 2 mths last yr?

last dec was 1mth + 1mth

Unregistered 19-11-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58988)
last dec was 1mth + 1mth

this year 1+1


maybe 1 + 1.25

Unregistered 19-11-2014 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58989)
this year 1+1


maybe 1 + 1.25

1.25? Impossible!

Unregistered 19-11-2014 08:30 PM

I've heard rumours of 1.25 as well as 1.3. But these are just rumours.

Unregistered 19-11-2014 10:53 PM

It will be 13th month plus one month of AVC

temp111 19-11-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 59018)
It will be 13th month plus one month of AVC

Got so zhun meh :eek:

Unregistered 20-11-2014 08:04 PM

avc less than 1 mth...

Unregistered 20-11-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 59048)
avc less than 1 mth...

No announcement yet...

Unregistered 20-11-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 58964)
so gan cheong for what, based on past practice, psd should announce the quantum this thursday. just wait two more days lo..

Guess it gg to be announce next week. Probably 25Nov, as news say 3Qtr gdp announced at 8am that day. I guess it might be higher than last yr of 1mth + 1.1mth plus a special bonus for next year. Maybe it can only happen in my dream? :D

Unregistered 20-11-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 59057)
Guess it gg to be announce next week. Probably 25Nov, as news say 3Qtr gdp announced at 8am that day. I guess it might be higher than last yr of 1mth + 1.1mth plus a special bonus for next year. Maybe it can only happen in my dream? :D

The avc already planned before the 3qtr GDP was announced .
Will announced tomorrow...

Unregistered 20-11-2014 10:43 PM

If it is not tomorrow, it will be on monday.

from what i heard, i repeat...AVC is less than 1 month. no special bonus, nothing more. lower wage workers will get fixed dollar quantum.


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