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lazyplane 07-02-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aspenx (Post 47996)
I didn't leave because of politics per se.

That previous company was small and I reported to the directors. They know me quite well and I trust them to be professional enough in their dealings so I had no qualms about putting them down as references (previous company was one of the potential vendors for the new company so it might have helped too).

The blatant background check was done by a local listed company. Not very nice especially since it was done before informing in advance but it is actually legal.

Good luck.

Not defending the company but
what is the point of a background check by the company if you need to be informed in advance ? Also, the company asked you to provide references.
You as a candidate can choose whom you want to put down.

aspenx 07-02-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lazyplane (Post 48000)
Not defending the company but
what is the point of a background check by the company if you need to be informed in advance ? Also, the company asked you to provide references.
You as a candidate can choose whom you want to put down.

To clarify, this background check was made AFTER I accepted the offer.
Also to add, there were TWO different types of references required. The first type did not require a professional relationship. The second type required a professional relationship from "past employment" and that was the only one I had at the time.

I had also explicitly told the new company that I have not broken the news to my then-current employer.

If you were the boss, you would want to hear from your employer himself or be given a rude shock by his new to-be-employer? And how would you act if you were indeed given that rude shock?

Fortunately for me, I had talked to my bosses the day before the check was initiated and I was informed of it (by my then-employer).

The "benefit" of being informed in advance is to save face (of the people you referenced too) which in turn can possibly allow you leave on a better note and start in the new place without awkward misgivings (both employer and employee).

Hope that gives a better understanding. YMMV.

Unregistered 10-02-2014 11:59 AM

How is reference actually requested? Just ask directly?

darkstar 10-02-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by floralpeace (Post 47745)
Im actually looking for roles specific to what I was doing. Does this means that if cannot find I shud just take anythg to make my gap short? Or would it better to find temporary placement?

Hi Floralpeace,

I used to be in a similar situation like yours and I am soon going to be in the same situation again!

I once really wanted to quit a job, so i just took the first offer that came my way. The job really made my life hell, so I left after 6 months - now people are asking me why (meaning interviewers) I stayed for so short!

it really depends on your qualifications and the industry you are in - somehow, I have the impression that for IT and Banking and finance,not so much a problem, but other industries, yes, it does raise questions that that person is a job-hopper/

darkstar 10-02-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 47865)
I was abruptly pushed out of my company in december 2013. Was asked to resigned. Just because I accidentally outsmart my manager a few times in meetings with directors. My manager was very jealous and he made life difficult for me and made me almost go crazy under stress, and at last I was forced to resign.

I thought about complaining, but complain also no choice, I am only a junior exec, who will listen to me?

I have been jobless for 2 months already.

Have tried applying for many jobs, til now no response yet.

Me too! Eaxctly same situation but I am serving my notice period now!

Unregistered 10-02-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by darkstar (Post 48114)
Me too! Eaxctly same situation but I am serving my notice period now!

Man...So its so common for manager politics?
I tot I was the only one.
Hope the next one better.

Unregistered 10-02-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by darkstar (Post 48113)
Hi Floralpeace,

I used to be in a similar situation like yours and I am soon going to be in the same situation again!

I once really wanted to quit a job, so i just took the first offer that came my way. The job really made my life hell, so I left after 6 months - now people are asking me why (meaning interviewers) I stayed for so short!

it really depends on your qualifications and the industry you are in - somehow, I have the impression that for IT and Banking and finance,not so much a problem, but other industries, yes, it does raise questions that that person is a job-hopper/

Meaning that u left your first job for a second job which u didnt relly want...And is now taking another job which u relly dun want oso?

I left my first now serving notice...Like cant wait to hop into another.
But which is worse - appear like jobhopper? Or unemployed GAP in resume ..

darkstar 10-02-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 48118)
Man...So its so common for manager politics?
I tot I was the only one.
Hope the next one better.

My first job, I left, because I was passed over for promotion, by a bunch of juniors whom later bullied me. the boss asked me to stop, but I left.

The second job, I kenna bullied by the boss. Another senior colleague later told me that the boss felt threatened that i would perform better than the third boss.

My third and current job, I was doing quite well. I quite like my job, I feel very comfortable with it, and got one time, I received a $300 increment as i hit more than double my KPI.

However, my new supervisor, whom recently came in, has been giving me a bad time, keep picking on me, like we were all still doing NS........scream at me in front of everyone, when the big boss not around.

darkstar 10-02-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 48119)
Meaning that u left your first job for a second job which u didnt relly want...And is now taking another job which u relly dun want oso?

I left my first now serving notice...Like cant wait to hop into another.
But which is worse - appear like jobhopper? Or unemployed GAP in resume ..

Actually, I have not found my fourth job yet leh........luckily I got no children, no mortage and accumulated quite a bit of comfortable savings

Unregistered 10-02-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by darkstar (Post 48124)
My first job, I left, because I was passed over for promotion, by a bunch of juniors whom later bullied me. the boss asked me to stop, but I left.

The second job, I kenna bullied by the boss. Another senior colleague later told me that the boss felt threatened that i would perform better than the third boss.

My third and current job, I was doing quite well. I quite like my job, I feel very comfortable with it, and got one time, I received a $300 increment as i hit more than double my KPI.

However, my new supervisor, whom recently came in, has been giving me a bad time, keep picking on me, like we were all still doing NS........scream at me in front of everyone, when the big boss not around.

Hi Darkstar,

Could you share the duration of stay for each job?
My current oso scream at me when everyone ard twisting facts, and also behind closed door.


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