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alvinneocz 03-06-2013 12:10 PM

my fren who applied had not heard from them either. Guess he is not selected ba. Dun think he has impressive cca records, maybe the program requires ppl with good cca records ba?

Unregistered 04-06-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alvinneocz (Post 37985)
my fren who applied had not heard from them either. Guess he is not selected ba. Dun think he has impressive cca records, maybe the program requires ppl with good cca records ba?

TTSH is just a fake management program like stat board freshie hire. They dont have the luxury of choosing only people with good cca records, people that good won't waste their time applying to join TTSH.

jobhunter1234 04-06-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 38057)
TTSH is just a fake management program like stat board freshie hire. They dont have the luxury of choosing only people with good cca records, people that good won't waste their time applying to join TTSH.

Yea...I think from previous postings most agree that it isn't a prestigious ma programme to begin with. However, the sad fact is that even for such ordinary position one is require to go thru serveral rounds of selections. I have a who has gotten in and according to him ppl have been rejected. Since now ye job market is so bad and jobs are scarce, freshie don't have much of a choice and that programme isn't that bad after all.

Unregistered 04-06-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jobhunter1234 (Post 38061)
Yea...I think from previous postings most agree that it isn't a prestigious ma programme to begin with. However, the sad fact is that even for such ordinary position one is require to go thru serveral rounds of selections. I have a who has gotten in and according to him ppl have been rejected. Since now ye job market is so bad and jobs are scarce, freshie don't have much of a choice and that programme isn't that bad after all.

Having to go through rounds of interviews is just a legacy of government bureaucracy, it is not because they have high standards.

Agree that times are bad and ppl have to just apply whatever there is and hope for the best. But a place like TTSH let's not kid ourselves that they rejected ppl because they offered to some high calibre cca guy, most likely who gets offered is just random chance and you happen to say a few words they like to hear or some interviewer like your face. That's all.

jobhunter1234 04-06-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 38064)
Having to go through rounds of interviews is just a legacy of government bureaucracy, it is not because they have high standards.

Agree that times are bad and ppl have to just apply whatever there is and hope for the best. But a place like TTSH let's not kid ourselves that they rejected ppl because they offered to some high calibre cca guy, most likely who gets offered is just random chance and you happen to say a few words they like to hear or some interviewer like your face. That's all.

Yea... I don't disagree. I also dislike the fact that they are trying to mimic what some big MNCs are doing for those genuine ma programmes. I mean some job scopes are kinda general and I dun see why the need to have so many rounds to assure them that you are the right person. I believe it could be because there are lots of applicants wanting to secure stable jobs in turbulent times like this so they have to come out with a system to pick among the masses. And many appl applicants actually hold good local deg with at least second upper. Definitely for those high calibre individuals with exceptional cca records, ttsh ma prog will not be an attractive option for them. But I do know such ppl who are still jobless because they are not selected for some top jobs due to overwhelming competitions...kinda sad. I think the part you mentioned bout looks and saying few good words to please the interviewers apply to all regardless of MNCs or public organizations. 2 cents ;)

Unregistered 04-06-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jobhunter1234 (Post 38066)
Yea... I don't disagree. I also dislike the fact that they are trying to mimic what some big MNCs are doing for those genuine ma programmes. I mean some job scopes are kinda general and I dun see why the need to have so many rounds to assure them that you are the right person. I believe it could be because there are lots of applicants wanting to secure stable jobs in turbulent times like this so they have to come out with a system to pick among the masses. And many appl applicants actually hold good local deg with at least second upper. Definitely for those high calibre individuals with exceptional cca records, ttsh ma prog will not be an attractive option for them. But I do know such ppl who are still jobless because they are not selected for some top jobs due to overwhelming competitions...kinda sad. I think the part you mentioned bout looks and saying few good words to please the interviewers apply to all regardless of MNCs or public organizations. 2 cents ;)

Nah, they going the rounds because gov policy is to have X min no. of people of certain rank and Y min no. of people from certain department. This is standard for almost all gov related jobs.

Real MNCs have 2 full day assessment programs with rotating judiging panels which test anything from role playing, problem solving, language/maths/logic test, presentation skills and ability to perform under stress. It is not totally bias free but definitely not like TTSH which is just many rounds of senseless interview talking where selection appears random.

I ever atteneded a BAT management program before. It was really siong and I felt totally shack at the end of the day, it takes more than just create good impression and talk cock to get past. Although I didnt get selected, it was an experience to see how the pros in mega MNC really do it. My friend went to the Exxon one and it was more or less the same.

Unregistered 17-12-2015 10:41 PM

anyone applied for this recently?

Unregistered 18-12-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76965)
anyone applied for this recently?

there are 2 rounds of interview. 1st one is a written test, 2nd round is a group discussion/debate session. cant rmb if gt 3rd round.

pay is 3.3k. benefits are gd with 21 days leave, and annual free vacinations etc. 8mths job rotation between departments.

Unregistered 18-12-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76972)
there are 2 rounds of interview. 1st one is a written test, 2nd round is a group discussion/debate session. cant rmb if gt 3rd round.

pay is 3.3k. benefits are gd with 21 days leave, and annual free vacinations etc. 8mths job rotation between departments.

its just a normal fresh grad hiring repackage as MAP. my friend was in 2013 batch, except for the rotation that is suppose to develop you (more like rotating to do sai gang in various dept), he told me pay & progression is the same as any other fresh grad hire.

Unregistered 18-12-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76979)
its just a normal fresh grad hiring repackage as MAP. my friend was in 2013 batch, except for the rotation that is suppose to develop you (more like rotating to do sai gang in various dept), he told me pay & progression is the same as any other fresh grad hire.

Not surprising. I doubt any high caliber grad will join TTSH to do general office work right after school. If you look at all the RH now most of the senior management in support side are either government sector scholars or high flyers from private healthcare companies.

Unregistered 18-12-2015 12:06 PM

for those with 2:2 or above from local unis by advice is to join a proper ministry / stat board instead. not only is the starting pay higher, bonus is also higher & more stable.

Unregistered 19-12-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76972)
there are 2 rounds of interview. 1st one is a written test, 2nd round is a group discussion/debate session. cant rmb if gt 3rd round.

pay is 3.3k. benefits are gd with 21 days leave, and annual free vacinations etc. 8mths job rotation between departments.

3.3k with NS? Could I know what class of honours you got?

Unregistered 27-12-2015 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 77019)
3.3k with NS? Could I know what class of honours you got?

I think you can get that with second lowers.

Unregistered 31-03-2016 09:18 PM

What is the starting salary for fresh grad without ns???

Unregistered 19-01-2018 05:37 PM

Hello! Anyone knows the starting pay for this programme without NS? :) Thank you!

Unregistered 09-03-2018 10:10 PM

2018 TTSH Management Associate Programme
 
Anyone here applied for the 2018 intake? :)


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