Those who feel inferior to others often respond by being defensive.

well, Oxbridge and ivies are gunning for treasury sales job. sim.. even if one does a blatant lie and list LSE (SIM) on their cv..

treasury sales sells treasury related prdts to the treasury department of MNCs. its mostly to manage the fx risks of the finance dept in a MNC, like IRS, fx forwards/swaps/spot

totally agree. most sims are just so proud, that they got a call from the big4 for an interview.

and yet you get some sims who claim to be managers, traders,

Many SIM grads working in treasury either in banks or in corporate sectors
Many NUS/NTU grads working as real estate agents or insurance agents
Your university pedigree does not pre-destined your career

wow. I wonder why people choose to study in nus then, when you can just pay and get a part time crap degree in 1.5years

To all the SIM bashers, since you are from local unis (presumably), put your progression or annual packages here for comparison before you continue the bashing. It maybe that you are wallowing in some SME after 10 years and just disgruntled with how others have turned out.

Empty vessels make the most noise.

it is always easy to be anecdotal and point out that there are SIM grads who work in certain prestigious [insert industry/position]. while i dont doubt that there ARE indeed a few SIM individuals who managed to achieve that, let's be honest about it, in most situations, a degree from NUS/NTU will definitely confer someone greater advantage than a degree from SIM.

SIM-RMIT Logistics & Supply Chain Management
 

Hello. Just wondering if anyone have any idea roughly how much one can draw as a fresh grad?

If you want to bash SIM and think NUS/NTU elite then post your salary data, dun just yayapapaya talk crock. The private sector could care less about some useless cert.

no need. ultimate litmus test - ask the sim part time lecturers to send their kids to sim. see if they want to.

conveniently brushing aside the challenge to post your own progression or annual package in both SIM threads?? will it hurt you to post here, under the cover of anonymity, unless you are a jobless loser hiding behind the computer?

in answer to your question, me (an SIM grad myself) wouldn't even want my own kids to go to SIM if they could go to local unis. which one of us would have gone to SIM if we could go to local uni? don't be a nut job. we were dealt this card in our life, whether through our own fault for not studying hard or being bright enough and we are dealing with it.

i highly suggest you man up to the challenge or just shut the f up. you are almost as bad as that lunatic in the other thread talking about COEs and retirement plans - a resounding gong.

Hahaha, we don't need to prove ourselves. The fact is, we CHOSE to go to NUS (and not SIM), and we got in!

Most people of sound mind will CHOOSE to go to NUS (and not SIM) if they had a CHOICE.

Most SIM grads themselves wished they were able to get into NUS (and not SIM) if they even had a CHOICE.

Of course, there will be those who maintain and insist that they CHOSE SIM. Well to these people, perhaps they really belong there. Hahahahahaha.

okok, im the guy tt originally posted the qn...seems like we're going back and forth about the "im better than you" argument lol

hmms, i wonder if there's any more opinions or views on how to progress into it from anyone else?

Well then. Besides industry that works like a machinery (hence the need for people for churning processes), do we see grads from SIM entering lets say Oil and Gas? Management Consulting? Pharma?

why do you need to see what I've achieved? sure.

I joined a BB on the sales n trading grad prog - started on an annual 96k.

6 months later I got a bump to 126k, been on an roughly ~5-8% yearly increment since.

got my avp 2yrs after hiring, + 20% and was headhunted to join another firm within the same year. +20%.

im now on a 200k per annum package. received a 6m bonus in march for last financial year.

happy? that's the problem with sim students, you just think that because you paid for a degree, there is some pride in it, and ive seen worse where sim try to pose themselves off as LSE/UOL/RMIT, and spouting some im street smart cra.

I have no issues with sim people - I have several good pals. difference is they readily acknowledge they are from sim when asked, not UOL/LSE. neither do they post on fb or join the LSE/UOL sg community group, or ask if I have heard of prof xxx from LSE who did their lectures.

Your view seems to be skewed, but oh well

im from sim now in mgt consulting, basic 12k now.

Being in SIM doesn't mean you can't make it AFTER that, but you couldn't make it BEFORE and that's why you are in SIM and not a local uni. There will always be outliers. Some who get into a local uni can still end up in low pay jobs and struggling to survive. It's about the probability and there's a higher probability that you will be successful if you attend a local uni. The reality of the job market is that private unis are viewed below local unis.

yea, and my dad's david beckham.

Haha... Pure fantasy
Still got time to send nosensical posts in morning 930am if you are sales&trading? Arent your eyes on bloomberg terminal, watching US fed, bunds, grexit news, or EM rate cut expectations this morning?
Like to talk big only, just pure lies and fantasy!! Hahaha

dont know why r u guys bashing each other hahahaha. I grad from SIM few years ago, met many local u grads colleagues and I get along with them fine. They asked where I am from and I'll just tell them honestly.

I work in a bank MO (not trade support or etc) and I have local grads reporting to me within my team whereas i report to the HOD who is a foreigner. I've co-interviewed and made recommendations to hire local grads over pte uni grads because most of them i met conduct themselves really well during interviews, though we've once hired a local grad who is a complete nutcase.
Even though i don't make as much as some of the big boys here claiming to be racking in millions yearly, but not too shabby overall i guess considering my age.

Does that make me very successful ? I don't really think so, still can't afford a brand new Audi R8 or bmw m7 leh. I'm just like any ordinary office worker you'll see in MRT every morning.

how much u make? got 500k?

If i am making 500K do you think i would still be taking MRT? hahaha

Anyway, is there even any MO functions that pay 500K for someone with less than 3years exp in total?

Excuse me for being so uninformed...

nope. I get in to office by 730 every morning for my daily updates - where I work, the analysts and economist prepare a daily overnight summary pack for us before the start of the trading day.

I'm a salesperson, not a trader. I spend most of my time meeting clients. this is the reason why sims always get bashed - you guys simply refuse to accept that there are people better than you. like the other poster said, you tell a smu grad that a cornell applied for the same role, he accepts his fate. tell it to a sim that a nus grad applied for the same role, he starts to bash the nus guy for being bookworm, not street smart.
my directors from nus btw. and I've never met a fellow sales/trader, even coverage bankers from sim.

MO 3yrs exp shld be 180-200k all in bah...

im a sales person in a bb with 5yrs exp on 200k annually (w/o bonus), if mo with 3yrs exp makes that amount, tell me how to apply pls.

ur current basic too low lar, go jump can get at least 250k

Really? Which of the big 3 are you in?

His god father is lloyd blankfein mah. He apply pantry specialist job also can get 100k

What kind of salesman r u?
simple Fx spot/swaps? Kacang putay size isit?
Institutional clients or retail banking?
So free, can anyhow come here to post and talk big?
Fantasy, hahahaha

this is the hair brained retard that refuses to answer the challenge to put down his progression/salary package but instead picks on everything else people are sharing.

get a life you moron.

Hmmm, sounds like you are from SIM. Poor thing.

well I did post my progress and package, so pls have a look before you start name calling. didn't realise this forum attract sim students, I thought most of the sims here have completed their studies. I wont go so far as to brand them as graduates considering they did not go through the same rigorous pedagogy a typical university student will go through

Hi, thanks for your insight. I was directing my first challenge to the poster with the more abrasive style but you replied. Unless I am wrong and both are in fact yourself with 2 distinct replying styles!

nope, I don't have schizophrenia. in any case, im on the em rates sales desk dealing only with institutional clients. fund mgrs, other FIs.

don't I have better things to do? well, put it this way. I bring in enough $ to make my bosses happy.

Wohahahahaa still in dream land where you are a high amd mightly salesman clinching that that one yard of KTB CCS swaps deal earning few bucks sales credits, keep dreaming baby!!

Rmit-marketing or business managment
 

Any graduates from RMIT MARKETING OR BUSINESS MANAGMENT degree can share their starting pay of their first job? Was the job search difficult?

no! RMIT people are street smart and will own all the local grads!
I got a job as a private banker, starting pay 10.5k!

It wasn't that difficult.

Financial markets advisory at Blackrock, starting pay was $12k/month

Congrats!

Rmit grads are indeed good! Comparable to grads from 0xbridge and top unis from States. Earlier I should have chosen it instead of spending so much on another uni.