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Unregistered 01-04-2024 07:16 AM
The pay rise is pathetic -might as well stay in existing sub grade and get better PB grade for less work 🤔

Unregistered 01-04-2024 07:27 AM
What’s the increment for GEO5 to 5A ?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 07:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchen (Post 273345)
Hope this helps and more input comes in
How do you guys check the increment?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:12 AM
MI while in NPL
 
Hi, can I check if there will be merit increment while in NPL starting only early this year?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:37 AM
Just wondering, has there ever been a difference in MI for C+ vs. C? I seem to remember that C+ got a little bit more in the past, but maybe I'm hallucinating. These days, the Mi seems to be the same.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:38 AM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 350
GEO4 to GEO5 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

GEO2
C
C+ 530 (disappointed)
B
A

GEO3
C
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B
A

GEO5
C
C+
B
A

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273338)
GEO3 to GEO4 is only $350 and my PB grade is A. Disappointed. I expected about $450-500
Were you at the GEO3 ceiling before getting promoted?

If you were already at the ceiling, you would not have received the MI component, only the promo increment component.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:54 AM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523
GEO4 to GEO5 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment
GEO2
C
C+ 530 (disappointed)
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B
A

GEO5
C
C+
B
A

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 09:09 AM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523
GEO4 to GEO5 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment
GEO2
C
C+ 530 (disappointed)
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B
A

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 11:00 AM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523
GEO4 to GEO5 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment
GEO2
C
C+ 530 (disappointed)
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B 253
A

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 11:32 AM
Where do I check for the increment? I don’t see it in Workpal

Unregistered 01-04-2024 11:35 AM
Log into HRP
Salary Related
See the current point

Unregistered 01-04-2024 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273359)
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 350
GEO4 to GEO5 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

GEO2
C
C+ 530 (disappointed)
B
A

GEO3
C
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B
A

GEO5
C
C+
B
A

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A
GEO 4 just promoted to GEO 5
PB: B, increment :$599 (quite disappointing)

Unregistered 01-04-2024 01:36 PM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523 - 592
GEO4 to GEO5 599 - 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment (non-promotee)
GEO2
C
C+
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B 253
A

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 01:50 PM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523 - 592
GEO4 to GEO5 599 - 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment (non-promotee)
GEO2
C
C+
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B 249
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B 253
A

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustAnotherPrimaryTeacher (Post 270294)
Let's get ready to update the list below, after knowing the PRB and increment etc. Being the original curator for the below info, I have removed some inputs. Do make sure you have all of the following info if you would like to add yours in.

1. YIS (Excluding NIE/Contract)
2. Gender
3. Edu qualification (if upgraded e.g. from dip ed to deg, indicate as well)
4. Current substantive grade
5. Last drawn salary


Degree/PGDE/DipEd
#years EXCLUDE NIE phase / contract teaching phase:

18 yrs, female, NIE grad, SEO1 (HOD), 9.8k
15 yrs, male, PGDE, SEO1 (HOD), 9.4k
16 yrs, female, Dip Ed, emplacement to degree during 8th year, GEO 4, 6k
12 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO5, 7.5k
12 yrs, male, PGDE, GEO5, 7.4k
11 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO5 (SH), 7.6k
11 yrs, female, NIE grad, GEO5, 6.9k [1Y NPL]
11 yrs, female, NIE grad, GEO4, about 6.5k [1Y NPL]
9 yrs, female, HOD, NUS grad, GEO5, about 7k plus (she said it's below 8k)
8 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO 4, 6.1k
8 yrs, male, PGDE local FCH, GEO 3, 6.2k
8 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO3, 5.9k
6 yrs, male, PGDE Overseas degree, GEO5 6.6k
6 yrs, male, PGDE local degree (HQ officer), GEO5 6.7k
6 yrs, male, PGDE local degree (HQ officer), GEO4 6.3k
6 yrs, female, NIE grad, GEO4 (SH new), 6k
6 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO4, 6.2k
6 yrs, female, Dip Ed, GEO3, 3.9k (no more emplacement)
5 yrs male, NIE grad, GEO4, 5.5k (int SH)
5 yrs, female, NIE grad, GEO3, 5.1k
5 yrs, female, PGDE, GEO3, 5.1k
4 yrs, female, NIE grad, GEO3, 5.4k
4 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO4, 5.6k
4 yrs, male, NIE grad, GEO4, 5.3k
3 yrs, male, PGDE, GEO3, 5.4k
3 yrs, male, PGDE, GEO3, 5.7k

Mid-Careers
Will be helpful to indicate the following
#years in private, #years in MOE:

13 yrs (??yrs private), female, mid-career, GEO5A, 8.5k (increment 5 to 5A was only $200)
4 yrs (??yrs private), female, mid-career, GEO4, 5.5k
4 yrs (??yrs private), female, mid-career, GEO3, 6.1k
1 yr (??yrs private), female, mid-career, GEO3, 5.9k
5 yrs, male, PGDE, GEO4, 6.3

Unregistered 01-04-2024 02:08 PM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523 - 592
GEO4 to GEO5 599 - 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment (non-promotee)
GEO2
C
C+
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B 249
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B 253
A 317

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 02:32 PM
On hrp, it still shows my old “current substantive grade”… never update to my new grade even though I got promoted… others like that oso?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273426)
On hrp, it still shows my old “current substantive grade”… never update to my new grade even though I got promoted… others like that oso?
How about your salary? Is it updated?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 03:55 PM
Am I right to say that the change in salary shown today is only the merit increment? The increment for promotion and new substantive grade are not reflected yet?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273444)
Am I right to say that the change in salary shown today is only the merit increment? The increment for promotion and new substantive grade are not reflected yet?
Lol…. Everything is included. As you can see, the jump from one grade to the other is not a lot. We are not in private sector.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273445)
Lol…. Everything is included. As you can see, the jump from one grade to the other is not a lot. We are not in private sector.
Then how do you explain the fact that I got promoted but the substantive grade not updated?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273447)
Then how do you explain the fact that I got promoted but the substantive grade not updated?
Our friend here still clinging on to the hope that there is a bigger increase in pay ah? Best way to know is for those who got promoted last year to say whether this range of increase in pay is the norm la.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273447)
Then how do you explain the fact that I got promoted but the substantive grade not updated?
Maybe the system cock up?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273199)
Those who covered as SH/LH may I know how long it took before your position is confirmed?
What I was told, usually 1 year, so you can have a wider view of what you are or will be doing.
Previously I covered for a year, but I went for maternity. P kept the position for me, so I covered 1.5 years; back from ML and went interview :)

Unregistered 01-04-2024 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273447)
Then how do you explain the fact that I got promoted but the substantive grade not updated?
Yes pay increment factored in but new grade not reflected yet.

What you see is what you get, no more extra haha

Unregistered 01-04-2024 05:42 PM
did a comparison with the increments from pre covid...ohwell.

also had a look at the numbers...for those getting C+, in terms of compensation there's like hardly any diff...lol

Unregistered 01-04-2024 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273422)
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523 - 592
GEO4 to GEO5 599 - 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment (non-promotee)
GEO2
C
C+
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B 249
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B 253
A 317 (verified twice)

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

GEO5 with an A. Increment of 317. Looking at the GEO5 to SEO1 increment, factoring the annual pay package with PB of A and all the KP allowance. Starting to really question if the increment for promo to SEO1 (assuming decent grade of around C+ or B) is worth it. Numbers don’t make sense to me at all cause the difference really is negligible.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:03 PM
My geo3 to geo 4 legit is sad. With B . Only $350.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273470)
GEO5 with an A. Increment of 317. Looking at the GEO5 to SEO1 increment, factoring the annual pay package with PB of A and all the KP allowance. Starting to really question if the increment for promo to SEO1 (assuming decent grade of around C+ or B) is worth it. Numbers don’t make sense to me at all cause the difference really is negligible.
Hi all, the increment could be in term of percentage rather than a fixed amount.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273471)
My geo3 to geo 4 legit is sad. With B . Only $350.
How can it be? It’s $592 for me.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:42 PM
Geo5 to 5a
 
Other than hitting salary ceiling of geo5,what is the minimum ranking to get promoted to geo5a?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273471)
My geo3 to geo 4 legit is sad. With B . Only $350.
Same. Are you at the ceiling too? My PB is A. Thought my MI will be bigger this year since i got A. In the end didn't even get one cent. Work so hard for nothing.

Why do they penalise those at the ceiling.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273473)
How can it be? It’s $592 for me.
I'm guessing you are not at the ceiling and PB grade is A?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 08:59 PM
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523 - 592 (350 if you're at the ceiling)
GEO4 to GEO5 599 - 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment (non-promotee)
GEO2
C
C+
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B 249
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B 253
A 317

GEO5A
C 181

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A

Unregistered 01-04-2024 09:00 PM
my increment from geo 4 to 5 is about $600 with a B rank this year.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 09:01 PM
Ranking
 
Hi
Will like to check that there is no increment or pb for c-?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273480)
Promotion
GEO2 to GEO3 530
GEO3 to GEO4 523 - 592 (350 if you're at the ceiling)
GEO4 to GEO5 599 - 662
GEO5 to GEO5a
GEO5 to SEO1 678
SEO1 to SEO2

Increment (non-promotee)
GEO2
C
C+
B
A

GEO3
C 173
C+
B
A

GEO4
C 178
C+ 178
B 249
A

GEO5
C 181
C+
B 253
A 317

GEO5A
C 181

SEO1
C
C+
B
A

SEO2
C
C+
B
A
The promotion amt is inclusive of MI?

Unregistered 01-04-2024 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273478)
I'm guessing you are not at the ceiling and PB grade is A?
That’s right. Got a B. Far from ceiling.

Unregistered 01-04-2024 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 273482)
my increment from geo 4 to 5 is about $600 with a B rank this year.
Same here.


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