Second day - you most probably still doing e learningz haha

Wah then cannot liao la

Entry SOP and entry timeline also never agree properly with HR and talent department

By right should cc both HR and Talent department together to sync

Then once join liao, will inform their respective department bosses

any news for updated pay?
A1-
A2-
S1-
S2-
AM-
M1-

how many months bonus?

Wa lao eh

Why 3 times? Singapore Idol audition only two times nia

They mistake izzit? Its audit role not audition leh

cringe max on their website

Foo Kon Tan logo description :

1.Frame

represents a closely-knit cohesive organisation.

2.Gold Circles

symbolize prosperity and wealth and represents our ambition to serve global clients

3.Open Corners

represents open-mindedness and collaboration, and our open door policy that welcomes talent to work and grow

4.Gold
associated with warmth and energy.

5.Blue
represents a strong foundation of trust, dependability, commitment, and stability

A1- cannot afford condo and car
A2- cannot afford condo and car
S1- cannot afford condo and car
S2- cannot afford condo and car
AM- can afford car but cannot afford condo
M1- finally can have condo but no car

Foo Kon Tan logo

1. Frame

This symbolises the office is 4 direction with partners all surrounded you, please stay back til 4am

2. Gold circle within frame

This symbolises we retain all wealth and will not increase salary expenses

3. Open Corners

This means your draft AWP will be kana aimed left center right from any corner

Average performer:

A1 - 4100
A2 - 4500
S1 - 4900
S2 - 5600
AM - 6200
M1 - 6800

1.1 months bonus.

This is for audit. Other BU is different: Consulting for example has no AM rank but the M1 is only 6400.

Orange? Heard kp avg bonus 2 mths for seniors sia

O go back to work. Audit ppl free surfing web

2 months is for high performer.

Consulting is much harder to get in though, so not fair comparison.

When I first join I told myself I didn’t care about the package cause I’m only gonna be there for 3 years MAX so as long as I break even it’s fine.

But I didn’t take into account:
1) inflation…
2) time spent looking for a new job..
3) employer referencing last drawn pay

I'm getting 3 months bonus from DT. 3 months is max for high performer.

That’s really high.

Are you high or exceptional performer?

Exceptional is above high?

So confusing… it’s like you are high distinction then you tell me got higjest distinction

Not sure abt tat.. but my year end scatterplot score is slightly more than 4.5 if it makes any sense to you.

M lvl above is it?

Blue first 2 years no bonus

existing associate bonus 1.5 , senior 2

Orange first year no bonus for audit.

Same for yellow revised

Terminology was changed back in 2017. But many people using the old terms la.

1 rater - Exceptional Performer
2 rater - High Performer
3 rater - Average Performer / Performer
4 rater - Under Performer
5 rater - Non Performer aka Shiny Legendary Pokemon. 10 years you see 1 time.

NTU also changed First Class Honors to Highest Distinction back in 2018. Six years already but ppl still using old terms.

*the new terms is just the numbers.

1 - thanks for helping your partner to acquire another seaview condo in District 15
2 - thanks for helping your partner upgrade to S-class from humble Corolla
3 - thanks for sponsoring holidays for our families to Europe and the Company D&D expenses
4 - will replace you with faster worker from malaysis
5 - Employee bz with side gig

How much is the commercial pay bump for s2 exit seniors ?

almost 0. nowadays after big4 hike too fast, base is same. but commercial bonus is much more generous 2-3mths norm

The hike is mainly for associates . The bonus all goes to the base pay for associates. it's a false impression of an increase. 0 bonus for year 1

The Senior pay is quite similar to last year . Very little increase, 100-200. I wonder why commercial can’t match or bump pay now. Is it oversaturated?

Oh my firm count the other way. 5 is the best 1 is the worst.

can expect a lower turnover rate at the Big 4 now if commercial can’t match or bump the pay. Probably a lot of people would want to downgrade to an associate role for $400 less and less stress.

is this accurate for all big 4?

Orange still got scaq bonus ?

Huh m1 8 years ago 6k plus, now not 7k yet....?

Audit is better for middle or low level performers

The skillsets are more survival based. You can literally do audit anywhere by using only microsoft excel software and doing documentation

If stay at audit for long term i dont think its a bad issue for those who dont have plans to make it big in business sector

Accountants in commercial (Peter Lim/Tony Fernandes) > Dr Gerard Ee (auditor)

Look at Kim Lim...$$ literally cannot use finish and partying whole day & night

Dr Gerard Ee’s son nao working as high end property agent

EY & DT is it

lol when A1 pay increased from 2.6k to 3.6k, M1 pay remained at 6k for so long that people went from secondary school to poly to ns to Uni to starting work and it still didn’t change much.

Thought this is an open secret…

Only past 2 years then M1 got revised.

shld be $7k alrdy

I think the post 2000 kids are calling this skibidi Ohio.

No it doesn’t seem like any Senior Associate has raised their hand asking for a demotion for less pay and less stress. People still want to grow and progress la.

But you are correct there is some feedback that the pay differential between A2 and S1 does not justify the workload differential.

Maybe come back next year and see if the firms are doing anything about it.

Yes and no

Average performer still 6800… but I got friend with 7000 cause better appraisal.