Dk why some of u have the idea that the big3 accounting grads in big4 are smart. I have met quite a couple of them who are not very bright and requires me to seriously hold their hand to get them to complete their stuff. Sometimes I rather have experienced hire associates from msia in my team instead. Book smart does not equates street smart pls. And some of them are really socially awkward and a bunch of weirdos.

Maybe cuz in the past, there was the perception that it was harder to get into accounting courses at the Big 3 universities (requiring better grades), but it's no longer the case in recent years (from 2020/2021 intake).

Maybe the Big3 accounting graduates wouldn't do phantom vouching?

Partners still see Big3 accounting graduates honest and hardworking.

All or most AAA students went into computer science or IT lol. Well big 4 get what they pay for.

How come audit associates and audit seniors and audit managers and senior managers and partners all have to be responsible for the billable hours? So difficult job.

I see civil servants or public servants work 22 days also no need stress such thing as billable hours one.

Job budget is managers job scope.

Associates and seniors don’t have to care in my firm.

Isn’t everyone from three local unis though? Like that’s the norm right

Which Uni are you from bro?

Isn’t everyone from the three local unis though? Like that’s the norm right

Which Uni are you from bro?

not op, but in addition to the 3, there are also graduates from SIT, SUSS, RMIT, UOL, UTAR, Sunway college, Universiti Malaya, University of reading etc etc.. so no the 3 local unis are not the norm.

some of us studied overseas

Not OP

But I think is a norm last time when ppl mentioned uni

Uni just 2

Ntu and nus

lol.. a lot people here not from local uni one.

Yes, a long time ago.

Last time in NTU study so many different types of modules got what use?

Only 1 module relevant when doing audit job.

More exemptions for SCAQ lor and more exit choices after grad. But if you choose audit, it's best if you don’t need to study so much. Private uni (2 yrs) and ACCA will be a faster path.

Financial accounting, advanced Corp accounting, managerial accounting, introduction to finance all important modules what lol

ran jiao lah

important is important

BUT are these modules related to your work in big4?

yup if choose uni path, then in future a lot of path to walk
can go AGO, MNC, commercial, audit

But if study ACCA then, is just specialised path which is accounting or audit or tax

Can someone clarify the professional experience requirement for SCAQ.

"A minimum of 3 calendar years (with at least 450 days worked in these 3 years) of practical work experience with an ATO is required"

Does this means zhun zhun 31 Jul 20x1 to 31 Jul 20x4 or does it mean 450 days worked between 31 Jul 20x1 when you started and 1 Jan 20x4 as a start of a new calendar year?

should be the latter since it say minimum

can anyone who got license approved alr confirm? i wanna zao asap hahaha

what are the chances of an internal transfer from audit to Tas in Ey?

I had the same qns as you and called ISCA last week. They confirmed its minimum full 3 years i.e. 31 Jul 20X1 to 31 Jul 20X4. 450 days is just to ensure you actually did work 450 working days in the 3 years.

Thinking of giving up on CA because of this requirement, have a few job offers alr and idw to stay until sep lol

so bloody bs eh... what if i just take a no pay leave... until hit 3 years

U left how many more months to hit the 3 yrs ?

Now need to work in ATO

last time no such requirement, as long as its somehow accounting related

no one say must work until midnight. work in those botique firm as accounts assistant 9 to 5 for 3 years also swee swee can clear.

Nah, last tjlime no ppl want convert becos its an extra cost to yourself or the firm. Its just when they say local u last cut off is 2017 then a lot ppl faster go convert..

provided u think its relevant for u. Worked more than 10 years before apply for full membership. Cut off is 2017 for local u lol. We just need to work 3 years and do ethics etc and can apply for ca alrdy. Now is a lot of extra requirements which are useless. Killing the local u intake. For ppl from developing country only.. or those local with no better option.

So what’s the benefit ah

Membership fee not cheap also

Benefits: Looks good on resume lor and some job listings require professional qualification.

But depends on ur job scope, u see if it’s worth paying $457.80 to ISCA.
Best if ur coy sponsor

I also kept my CA SG for resume reasons - I alr have a local Uni degree, but with the CA, it looks more impressive

My company doesn’t sponsor such thing.

I also not looking for job, resume hasn’t been updated since forever ago

Like no benefit..

CA is not a licence

s://isca.org.sg/standards-guidance/audit-assurance/standards-and-guidance/signing-convention

Be aware of what you can and cannot sign.

Is CFA better than CA?

Unfortunate list:
- Enrolment batch between 2016 -2018 (transition batch) who had plenty of better course options but chose accounting.
- Enrolment batch 2019 who have better course options but chose accounting.
- Graduated batch after the cutoff in 2017 or those who missed the cutoff for conversion.
- Graduated batch before 2022 after 2017, who have to clear an additional professional papers (standard 5)
- Graduated batch from 2021-2023 who have no better career options but to serve the full 3 years in b4.
- Those who have cleared 3/4 papers but want to leave before the 3 years mark (neither here nor there).
- Those who have completed CA SG but don’t require it for the job or are not company sponsored.

Seems like accounting is getting more and more unpopular.

Y'all still bothering with CA for job applications? Referrals are the way to go when you have enough work experience. Good jobs at good companies don't get advertised and are already filled when advertised for SOP purposes.

Anyone knows whats the A2 pay across all 4 firms?

I know one lady working in Tuas who is the CFO of her family company

Very big company

She also no CA, ACCA, NTU, NUS, SMU

She only got private uni degree

lol only if Ure born with a silver spoon. But Wuts ur point 😂

$3.8k but heard orange is $4k to compensate for no bonus in first yr. Dun ask me to provide source. It’s jus verbal inquiry lol

Here we discussing like what 3.8K, 4.5K, 5.7K, 9K like until so desperate

KNN

This woman with no NTU, NUS, SMU degree, no ACCA, CPA Australia, CA, ICAEW also can become CFO

Her only good thing is she know how to use excel only