if that’s the case, the better ones will have more incentive to take the bonus and leave since the salary falls below market or expectation.

what is the trigger? indeed saga karma

better-performing employees refer to C+ and above or B and above?

I know many new joiners are at the lower band so they definitely get more.
But since all ppl of same salary grade are ranked together, I think the new approach is fairer. Same salary grade should be paid same if their performance is the same.

It is all relative. C graders are better performing than D, while C+ graders are better than C. The higher your performance grade, the higher your bonus is.

This one I really cannot brain and I only wish I can bring this up during govtech con

Why on earth will u give them such high ranking position and title. pui

A bit a bit also lead and principal. Makes the title feels so cheap already. Why dont take care of the services whom are slogging in and out, taking care of the agency and clocking revenues for the organization

I am a Grade G with 8 years exp (outside of govtech) and I cannot brain how long I need to climb just to have that title

And when are they going to change the DBA title. Omg

he will also potentially get lower absolute Salary Increment? why?

Lol bro or sis,why u copy my quote. I thought someone resonated with me but I read it again, only realised I wrote it lol

Might not be for SI. See if I can find out in our upcoming town hall this Wed

it begs the question why the people who make this decision, including those allowing this to happen, are still around and wrecking havoc of the company. surely the same people with the same mindset wont make the same judgement error (if they consider so) only once.

What this also mean we can now openly share our bonus.

Since all will receive the bonus amount the same for same grade.

Example in whole of govtech, Grade G for C gets $30k, everyone who are in this group gets the same

Grade G for C+ gets $35k

Etc

Essentially its fairer but if I , grade G,perf C am drawing $10k per month, its probably only 3 months

Whereas if another person, am grade G, perf C drawing $5k per month, it's a whooping 6 months!

Huat ka liao ah!

Thats if u complete your project early with high quality

But in reality, is it really the case? We, services when work with HQ, be it GDS or whoever, can be real slow and vomit blood

At the same time, u cant treat this folks like vendor. Theres no penalty if your own ppl screw up. Throw face le, we all govtechies. We Can only like, "pls help la, when la, urgent la "

Exactly. Then will be like, oh I done my job. Now I go do other more shiny stuff so I can put myself out there.

But actually the work ain't that great. If u really want to do above and beyond, maybe should really see if the project still has any outstanding work. Raise your hands and do it.

Not like, eh I done my part. Sorry bye bye about the rest of the team. Ping me when u need me, otherwise I afh already

my second guess the same amount would be median salary of the band? if grade G range 6-9k, may be 7.5k?

Yea, we are told that it will use the mid point of the salary grade, but was not told what’s the mid point…

Can u name the project that that gives you this pain?

almost all. no sense of schedule. parachute solutions and force agemcies to suck it up. charge big bucks for something that COTS also can do. siao

most of the time, agencies neh-ber say they have problems. gds ji ki find problems to solve. push to agencies, cause ****

Give an example?

What parachuted solutions?

dont have to look far. Just look at some common tools such as Vica.

I dont want go into details, for what we bash own ppl out in the open

Its just a reality no one dare to confront

Like I said, after all still govtech. We cant treat them like a vendor. We can't penalise them. Agencies turn to us then we can only hold them that much. Then escalate.

Some director very what one. Example got some AI solution.

Then go find agencies snr mgmt, say eh I got this le. Successful implementation in other agency. U want bo? Very fast we can do it

Then it comes

If it’s a good solution, why not?

don't air dirty laundry in public liao people...

Which systems use VICA? each govt website has a chatbot, is that built using VICA?

Sorry folks. Got riled up middle of the night.

Some ppl are just ignorant, riding their high horses thinking what they are doing are so essential and important

Just because no one say to their face doesn't mean its not there

can share what are the changes? good or bad?

most already attended, IYKUK...

likely more comments nearer to end of apr :P

what is the % allocated for C, C+, B and A?

Normal distribution.

This kind of info HR and Senior Management won't disclose one. I guess it is around 5% D, 20% C, 50% C+, 20% B and 5% A.

So 3900 GovTechie means got 195 D, 780 C, 1950 C+, 780 B and 195 A. 195 D kena PIP?

lol if really so many get C+, I will LMPO

Yup, will share more end of the month.

Now still early. Hold on

Some as CPFB bonus scheme.

Cpfb also follow the same method?

Bonus is same quantum if u are same grade , same perf rating

how they derive the amount? median of the band?

HR claimed it is FAIR

Median of the salary range of that grade? I think

r/askSingapore
2 yr. ago
JoshRagu

What is the most egregious expenditure management made in your company which does nothing to boost staff welfare?

Tldr; company rented a new office floor with a swimming pool but cut down on the number of office floors which contain actual work cubicles (so people have to hot-desk). Company can afford to pay for maintenance of swimming pool but refuses to increase employee compensation to market rates.

Heard this from a friend who works for a prominent social security Statutory Board,

Statutory Board's management decided to rent a new office floor which includes an outdoor swimming pool and patio area, claiming that this is to be used as an innovation space and will improve staff welfare. Swimming pool would be a white elephant since who in their right minds would be swimming there in full view of their colleagues and bosses.

Best part is the Statutory Board has been returning other office floors, containing proper work cubicles, in the building as it decided to downsize office capacity and force employees to hot-desk. Higher ups have also been reducing salary increments and bonuses to below market rates (despite saying that compensation remains competitive) to the extent that attrition rate is sky high. Bosses refuse to raise pay to retain high performing staff and instead gaslight staff with financial engineering shenanigans to make pay higher on paper, the usual 13th month bonus was split over 12 months and allocated into the monthly salary, because this would increase the monthly pay to look more attractive. However, bonus paid out in terms of xx months of monthly pay is based on original base pay. All this does is to help the Statutory Board to pay less employer contributions to employees, ironically the Statutory Board's main business is to enhance retirement security.

s://.reddit.com/r/askSingapore/comments/tbqyef/what_is_the_most_egregious_expenditure_management/