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Unregistered 01-05-2021 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by COVID-19 (Post 166964)
Not very applicable. We call it "grades" here.
Grade 12: Assistant Director. Definitely above $5.9k, maybe $6.5k. Because after the increment I got above $5.9k, but still grade 12.
Grade 11: Assistant Director. Glassdoor says up to $9k.
Grades 9-10: Deputy Director. $9k to $16.7k. My DD colleagues can afford branded bags, cars, condo.
Grade 8: Deputy Director who is also Division Head. No idea about the pay.
Grades 5-7: Director who is either Team Lead (obsolete scheme) or Division Head or Department Head (just promoted). Glassdoors say $20.6k.
Grade 4: Executive Director. Definitely above $20k, because my boss say she got 10% paycut for covid-19, and that's more than $2000 per month.
Can you provide some ballpark number of years experience for average performer grade 12,11,10,9?

COVID-19 02-05-2021 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167222)
Can you provide some ballpark number of years experience for average performer grade 12,11,10,9?
Fresh grads get to be redesignated to grade 12 within 3 years. But i also see some mid career still get offered grade 12 with 9 years of experience, maybe they did not have local degree, im not sure, i didnt ask bc that guy is my teammate and he still has to attend the MAS Diploma courses which is compulsory for fresh grad up to grade 12. That's how i know what is his grade.

My colleague recently got promoted to grade 10, she is born in 1988. So that's about 10 years of experience? But i also seen a guy only got promoted to grade 10 when he's 43. Another female colleague got grade 11 (mid career), with 8 years of experience.

Unregistered 02-05-2021 09:03 PM
Does one need a First Class or Second Upper to join as a mid career hire?

COVID-19 02-05-2021 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167388)
Does one need a First Class or Second Upper to join as a mid career hire?
I have a second lower and i got offered. But my strategy is to apply for a less popular department, and I got relevant experience.

Unregistered 02-05-2021 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by COVID-19 (Post 167385)
Fresh grads get to be redesignated to grade 12 within 3 years. But i also see some mid career still get offered grade 12 with 9 years of experience, maybe they did not have local degree, im not sure, i didnt ask bc that guy is my teammate and he still has to attend the MAS Diploma courses which is compulsory for fresh grad up to grade 12. That's how i know what is his grade.

My colleague recently got promoted to grade 10, she is born in 1988. So that's about 10 years of experience? But i also seen a guy only got promoted to grade 10 when he's 43. Another female colleague got grade 11 (mid career), with 8 years of experience.
Thanks for the info! Can I ask, do fresh grad get accelerated/more exposure opportunities quicker than mid hires. Seems as though the fresh grad recruitment process is rather stringent.

COVID-19 02-05-2021 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167398)
Thanks for the info! Can I ask, do fresh grad get accelerated/more exposure opportunities quicker than mid hires. Seems as though the fresh grad recruitment process is rather stringent.
Yes the process for fresh grads is more stringent. I believe it may be bc when applying as a mid career for a specific role, you're competing with mostly internal transfers. That's why experience matters. But all fresh grads also happen to be similar in calibre (similar GPA, internship, but no full time experience), so what differentiates them is the interview. Afaik, only scholars get more exposure but they don't get redesignated faster. Still have to serve the 3 years as Associate first. But they have higher potential, meaning one day they can become division heads and above.

Unregistered 03-05-2021 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167175)
Definitely stressful with the new DMD! :(
Only a bona fide MAS officer can say this :)

Unregistered 03-05-2021 01:30 AM
Just wondering in MAS, which teams are the most tough or chiong - Economics Policy, Markets Development or Supervision roles! Hearsay some teams have a really bad work life balance.

Unregistered 03-05-2021 07:51 AM
How’s the monetary and domestic markets management dept? Good?

Unregistered 05-05-2021 10:54 PM
Development
 
Heard development is overworked and culture is bad. Anyone can verify?

Unregistered 06-05-2021 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167756)
Heard development is overworked and culture is bad. Anyone can verify?
The stuff they deal with is way more varied and often, novel, compared to say, Supervision departments, so there is less routine in terms of the jobscope. This probably leads to more debate / discussion and also lengthier processes (approvals etc.)

No idea on the culture but they really have a lot of different and new things to do, which can be draining or even frustrating for some people.

Unregistered 06-05-2021 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167408)
Just wondering in MAS, which teams are the most tough or chiong - Economics Policy, Markets Development or Supervision roles! Hearsay some teams have a really bad work life balance.
Sometimes the toughness or chiongness depends on whether there is a large issue at hand, especially if you are in policy departments.

But in general, MAS, like other govt agencies, have a habit of increasing the amount of things to do (often unnecessary) but not increasing the amount of people to do it. This is one of the main factors leading to the lack of work life balance for some teams.

Unregistered 10-05-2021 12:11 PM
Thanks for sharing so much!

Can I ask anyone who worked in MAS, upon resignation from A to AD at the 3 year mark, will there be any big bump in pay? Or jus a minor increment of 100-200? Understand that for the 1st year its about 3.8k, 2nd year, the group bonus will be subsumed under base so there will be a slight bump, but wondering from 3rd year onwards.

COVID-19 10-05-2021 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168206)

Can I ask anyone who worked in MAS, upon resignation from A to AD at the 3 year mark, will there be any big bump in pay? Or jus a minor increment of 100-200? Understand that for the 1st year its about 3.8k, 2nd year, the group bonus will be subsumed under base so there will be a slight bump, but wondering from 3rd year onwards.
I didn't join starting as an A but I doubt so. My colleague who got redesignated to DD, complained that his increment is below $500. So i doubt A to AD will be higher than $500. Do you consider $500 to be big bump? Normal year increment is $200-300.

Btw the group bonus and 13 month has been subsumed in 2018 already. It is not for 2nd year associates 😂

COVID-19 12-05-2021 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168206)
Thanks for sharing so much!

Can I ask anyone who worked in MAS, upon resignation from A to AD at the 3 year mark, will there be any big bump in pay? Or jus a minor increment of 100-200? Understand that for the 1st year its about 3.8k, 2nd year, the group bonus will be subsumed under base so there will be a slight bump, but wondering from 3rd year onwards.
What do you mean by bump? Normal increment is $200-300. My colleague got promoted to DD and he complain it's below $500.
By the way the fold in for 13 mth and group bonus happened for everyone in 2018 alr haha, so u wont see any slight bump.

Unregistered 12-05-2021 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by COVID-19 (Post 168443)
What do you mean by bump? Normal increment is $200-300. My colleague got promoted to DD and he complain it's below $500.
By the way the fold in for 13 mth and group bonus happened for everyone in 2018 alr haha, so u wont see any slight bump.
I see! Thanks for sharing! 🙏 Yea understand its already changed in terms of the bonus system haha. Bump meaning, from Grade 13 A to Grade 12 AD, will there be any bump or increment that is more significant? Compared to say a normal pay increment for inflation every year haha.

Unregistered 12-05-2021 11:44 PM
If one is recently promoted to DD, realistically how much is the average salary.

Unregistered 16-05-2021 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168578)
If one is recently promoted to DD, realistically how much is the average salary.
For DD rank, it can be anything from $8.5k to $12k for new promotees (AD to DD).
Reason for being a big range is because not everyone's base is different, age also different, years of experiences also different.

So yes, the range you could look at is $8.5k to $12k , unless you can be more specific with age and years of relevant experiences, this could narrow down the range to a smaller one of up to $1.5k. (As there will always be a differences in ranges, same person can do the same job, same position, but 1 person could be paid more up to $1.5k, doing the same thing).

Unregistered 17-05-2021 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 169094)
For DD rank, it can be anything from $8.5k to $12k for new promotees (AD to DD).
Reason for being a big range is because not everyone's base is different, age also different, years of experiences also different.

So yes, the range you could look at is $8.5k to $12k , unless you can be more specific with age and years of relevant experiences, this could narrow down the range to a smaller one of up to $1.5k. (As there will always be a differences in ranges, same person can do the same job, same position, but 1 person could be paid more up to $1.5k, doing the same thing).
thanks for this, may I know how much a directors pay range is in MAS and what grade this roughly corresponds to?

Unregistered 17-05-2021 07:39 PM
On average, how old before officers are promoted to AD, DD and Director for local grads?

Unregistered 18-05-2021 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 169094)
(As there will always be a differences in ranges, same person can do the same job, same position, but 1 person could be paid more up to $1.5k, doing the same thing).
I would even go so far as to say that for the same jobscope, one person could be two ranks higher than another person.

Unregistered 25-05-2021 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 169094)
For DD rank, it can be anything from $8.5k to $12k for new promotees (AD to DD).
Reason for being a big range is because not everyone's base is different, age also different, years of experiences also different.

So yes, the range you could look at is $8.5k to $12k , unless you can be more specific with age and years of relevant experiences, this could narrow down the range to a smaller one of up to $1.5k. (As there will always be a differences in ranges, same person can do the same job, same position, but 1 person could be paid more up to $1.5k, doing the same thing).
sorry to repeat but, may I know how much a directors pay range is in MAS and what grade this roughly corresponds to?

Unregistered 25-05-2021 05:05 PM
Applied to MAS
 
Tried applying to supervision roles in MAS since late April but until now still no interview. Not sure how long it takes to get interview. Quite a number of my application status are In Process.

Unregistered 25-05-2021 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 170432)
sorry to repeat but, may I know how much a directors pay range is in MAS and what grade this roughly corresponds to?
Grade 6, 20-24k base

Unregistered 26-05-2021 02:20 AM
MAS seems to have frozen overall headcount. Many of the "newer" positions are tech or green related. Jobs vacancies are mostly contract under sg united. Not sure if a DD in MAS earns comfortably over 8.5k but it sounds a bit on the high side.

There is no significant pay bump from G13 associate to G12 AD - you will get the standard 200 odd increment.

MAS seems to have issues keeping staff more than 3 years, esp below DD level.

Generally, DDs need at least 8 full years working exp though i think the norm is 10 years working exp for a so so performer.

Unregistered 26-05-2021 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 170601)
MAS seems to have frozen overall headcount. Many of the "newer" positions are tech or green related. Jobs vacancies are mostly contract under sg united.
It's not so much that headcount has been "frozen" but that people are generally not leaving their jobs during this COVID period. Not just in MAS. The economy is also not expanding as fast.

Unregistered 27-05-2021 07:52 PM
Thanks all for sharing! Very informative. May I ask normally how long will MAS get back to you? Ha e been waiting for 3 weeks after 2nd interview (left 1 more I believe) but no reply and the portal says I'm still in the shortlist!

Unregistered 28-05-2021 12:11 PM
Hi
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 170873)
Thanks all for sharing! Very informative. May I ask normally how long will MAS get back to you? Ha e been waiting for 3 weeks after 2nd interview (left 1 more I believe) but no reply and the portal says I'm still in the shortlist!
At most 2 weeks I think. Can call HR to check?

Unregistered 08-06-2021 08:21 PM
Hard
 
Is mas hard to get in?

Unregistered 08-06-2021 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173109)
Is mas hard to get in?
depends on role... which area?

Unregistered 08-06-2021 11:56 PM
Mas
 
Which role is hardest?

Unregistered 09-06-2021 10:19 PM
If a fresh university degree graduate joins MAS as Grade 13 employee, what is the Grade level for a fresh polytechnic diploma graduate in MAS?

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Originally Posted by COVID-19 (Post 156869)
I think it's probably Grade 4-6 somewhere there.
Grade 13 is Trainee Officer/Associate, 0-3 years of experience.
Grade 11-12 is Assistant Director, 3-6 years of experience. Grade 11 and above can be Team Lead already.
Grade 9-10 is Deputy Director.
Grade 8 is Deputy Director who are also Division Head.
Grade 7 should be Director, who may be Division Head or Department Head.

Unregistered 10-06-2021 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173301)
If a fresh university degree graduate joins MAS as Grade 13 employee, what is the Grade level for a fresh polytechnic diploma graduate in MAS?
No, just join after you have become a uni grad

Unregistered 12-06-2021 02:03 AM
Does MAS hire a mid-careerist with uniformed services background (e.g. SAF, security etc)? If so, what are the departments that hire candidates with such background?

Unregistered 12-06-2021 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173712)
Does MAS hire a mid-careerist with uniformed services background (e.g. SAF, security etc)? If so, what are the departments that hire candidates with such background?
Try Enforcement department

Unregistered 12-06-2021 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173737)
Try Enforcement department
Thanks. Is it a requirement to have a degree to enter its Enforcement department? Or relevant experience suffice?

Unregistered 12-06-2021 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173742)
Thanks. Is it a requirement to have a degree to enter its Enforcement department? Or relevant experience suffice?
they take anyone

Unregistered 12-06-2021 10:45 PM
either times are bad, or enforcement don't really need a degree to do his job as much as those from the policy group due to the former ops nature

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173896)
they take anyone

Unregistered 12-06-2021 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173896)
they take anyone
getting into enforcement is easier and not hard compared to say economic policy

Unregistered 13-06-2021 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173301)
If a fresh university degree graduate joins MAS as Grade 13 employee, what is the Grade level for a fresh polytechnic diploma graduate in MAS?
What is the estimated salary for Grade 13, 12 and 11? thanks


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