Well of course everything's hearsay *wink wink smile*

Just like how the retention rate across all of public service has dropped to a 10 year low right?

use hearsay to try to invoke ppl to response so please continue to get the get the correct response from that.

Resigned mah, not retrenched. Still iron rice bowl for ppl who stay. :o

who gives a **** about your hypothetical figures? why don't you make it 50% to make yourself sound more convincing? Perhaps 75% is even better?

you sound exactly like the type of pussy who wants to quit but don't have the balls to quit so you keep fantasizing about how many others are quitting.

Here's a suggestion: Come Monday, log in to your laptop, open microsoft word, type out your resignation letter, and email it to HR, your dept head, and your div head.

cannot quit, he still chasing his dream of promoting to DD

not really. resign or asked to resigned is also reported as resign ma.

look at the number of people with 13/14/15 year that left in last few years. the number is a bit too high and concentrated to be natural attrition.

either a mass of employees who has given their prime years of service to MAS suddenly all decide that they had enough and walked out, or they are asked to leave, or something has changed in the last few years that broke the camel's back.

Ya should ask farmers to leave after X years, else all farm till retirement like dinosaur don’t give two hooks about things bloody waste of everybodys time

Tendered my resignation to join FI with 15% increment. Still need to serve 3 months notice…

Leave MAS for 30% increment
 

I am working in MAS about two years and got a 30% increment in FI. Is it a wise decidion to leave MAS in two years or wait for 3/4 yrs before making a move? To seek advise, will it have any impact in the profile if leave in two years.

Joined not very long and have to deal with a taiji king recently. Really disgusting at how someone can shamelessly taiji things away and dgaf. Lepak ground here to some.

Wow surprised to hear this type of horror story. My department don't have any taiji king so far.

then be prepared to face a taiji king another department

Can I check which dpt is prestigious and recognised by senior management?

MD office sure ok

Not supervisory departments usually. This is both a pro and a con.

For senior management and high signature, I think MSD, MDD & PPD.

For movement to banks, BD.

Don’t see any value for development & corporate side.

Second that

Development side can be high signature too. Like FMD and FDD. But it is difficult to meet development targets to get recognition.

Yeah true. Some of them do manage to transit to biz dev / sales roles in the private sector

pay package
 

Hi all, just rcvd offer for AD position in a supervisory department.
Hv 4 years big 4 experience, last drawn ~4.8k/mo.
MAS offered 5.4k. Is it on the low end? I heard most AD start at 6k or close to 6.

you have no negotiating power. AD1 is like that

hihi I'm a third year associate and I'm currently getting 5450 (after the recent salary adjustment), so i expected AD to get at least 10% above that. when did you get your offer?
i heard there is also going to be another adjustment in april too

Glassdoor put 6.5. What is the usual range for AD2?

They do take your last drawn salary into consideration when offering you the post. But do calculate and see if it is worth it as MAS only has 1 bonus per year and avg bonus range between 1.5-1.7. Increment is not as attractive over the last few years as well.

Based on 5.4k and 13.5 month package - 73k annual is not too bad. Just expected a bit higher.

Adjustment in Apr is a norm. Every Apr is annual increment.

6.5 is average across AD1 and AD2 right, since glassdoor doesn't distinguish between the two. my sense is AD1 5500-6500 and AD2 6500-7500 average 6.5k? i read somewhere in the thread that DD starts at 9k though. is the jump from AD to DD big?

I got a colleague who promoted to DD after 8 years working as fresh grad in MAS.
He told me DD get only 8.5K salary

It could be due to the cut when covid struck. For 8.5k as DD, u could just work in other gov agencies which potentially less stressful and lesser workload than MAS. Moreover, other agencies have 3 bonuses a year as compared to MAS which only have 1 bonus (and not v high bonus too).

Came in with 5 years experience at AD2, started with 7.2k. Think you have been shortchanged.

The HR probably pegged to your last drawn pay and offer you ~13% increment which is not unusual.
If you prefered WLB, i would take this offer compared to grinding in Big 4.

What is your last drawn pay before u came in?

or rather what kind of experience did you bring along? :)

I'm not OP but were you from big 4 as well or were you drawing a high salary? Did you get an increment or cut when you joined MAS?

5 years experience joining as AD2 is above average I would think, since assoc is usually 3 years and AD1 is another 3 years on average. Do correct me if I'm wrong

How long did you have to wait before they offered?

Drawing about 5.5 in a ministry. Not much relevant experience.

Ministry all in including AWS is about 16 months package on average
5.5*16= 88K

MAS all in is about 14 month package on average
7.2K*14=100.8K

You got a 15% increment.

Usually how many years of exp for pte sector mid hire to join as AD2?

Is it difficult for mid joiner to get post-grad sponsorship? Any mid joiner managed to do it?

if you got 2 conservative B, you stand a chance already