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Unregistered 15-03-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 22355)
LOL. Pace is pretty quick when compared to CPF?

Dead water department filled with people with no career aspiration at all. Recently someone high up tried to push for modernization and many old birds not happy, but then honestly when the whole department consist of family ladies who are content to take it easy until retirement, what can anyone do?

Itís not like they can fire themÖ You give them low ratings, increments & bonus they also bochap.

Even if they succeed to transform the department, at most it will still be on par as stat board, definitely in terms of pace, creativity and dynamic is still far cry from private companies.

Haha I sense a bit of sarcasm there but I am still a little confused. So you are saying that the pace is not exactly fast actually? So I presume OT isnt very prevalent there?

Isn't there any new blood in the form of new graduates in the department? How is the turnover rate like?

Unregistered 15-03-2012 09:01 PM

be prepared for Singaporean's complaints. Some of them are really spolit to the core and may scold you.

if u cannot handle this, don't join. My fren at HDB gets alot of unreasonable requests from Singaporeans.

pelandok 15-03-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 22361)
be prepared for Singaporean's complaints. Some of them are really spolit to the core and may scold you.

if u cannot handle this, don't join. My fren at HDB gets alot of unreasonable requests from Singaporeans.

Yea I heard about that. I think that would pertain more towards the estate officer job role where they have to handle customer service.

What about the HR side? Heard of any beautiful or horror stories?

Unregistered 16-03-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 22356)
Haha I sense a bit of sarcasm there but I am still a little confused. So you are saying that the pace is not exactly fast actually? So I presume OT isnt very prevalent there?

OT very rare as far as I can tell, maybe only peak period I see some of them hanging around. Even then, Iíve never seen anyone really stay beyond 8pm. Turnover definitely much lower than outside.

Itís pretty standard stuff they handle, just think of it as an administrator job, the usual things like looking after employment contracts, tending to queries, organizing welfare events, conduct interview etc. Like I mention earlier, itís not really HR, more like admin department.

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Isn't there any new blood in the form of new graduates in the department? How is the turnover rate like?
Of course they still have occasional fresh grads or <30s coming in, but the point is not they are old or young, itís just that even with fresh grads, do you think a progressive & ambitious fresh grad will come and work as an administrator in a civil service environment? The culture & recruitment process already serve as auto filter to make sure only those who fit the mould will join regardless of age

Bean 16-03-2012 12:27 PM

how about those engineer in HDB, stressful job/alot of OT?? too

pelandok 16-03-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 22388)
OT very rare as far as I can tell, maybe only peak period I see some of them hanging around. Even then, Iíve never seen anyone really stay beyond 8pm. Turnover definitely much lower than outside.

Itís pretty standard stuff they handle, just think of it as an administrator job, the usual things like looking after employment contracts, tending to queries, organizing welfare events, conduct interview etc. Like I mention earlier, itís not really HR, more like admin department.



Of course they still have occasional fresh grads or <30s coming in, but the point is not they are old or young, itís just that even with fresh grads, do you think a progressive & ambitious fresh grad will come and work as an administrator in a civil service environment? The culture & recruitment process already serve as auto filter to make sure only those who fit the mould will join regardless of age

Great insights. Appreciate the points made. Besides the workload, do u have anything to share about the culture at HDB (ie: friendly environmient, opportunities for internal job rotation, etc)?

Unregistered 17-03-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pelandok (Post 22442)
Great insights. Appreciate the points made. Besides the workload, do u have anything to share about the culture at HDB (ie: friendly environmient, opportunities for internal job rotation, etc)?

The few I talk to before seem quite friendly, can't say for the others. Don't think there are opportunities for job rotation, unless you count moving from administering contracts to administering training plan as job rotation.

civil serpent 17-03-2012 12:35 PM

eh getsby. chiu want to be civil serpent meh

Bean 17-03-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by civil serpent (Post 22480)
eh getsby. chiu want to be civil serpent meh

have been applying, not even an inteeview?
2nd lower NTU mechanical eng..
4-5 years eng exp in GLC.

why join civil service:
-support NS activity, ICT/IPPT/RT
-no FT
-work life balance
-pro- family
-will always have wage adjustment every 3-5 years
-annual salary about 16 mths on average
-annual increment/promotion is double of what my company is giving now..
-very stable

civil serpent 17-03-2012 02:04 PM

that's because ST engineering sucks isn't it. Why stay in that **** hole?

You can try out privately owned MNCs in your sector


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