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Old 01-04-2015, 11:42 PM
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Which is my original point, we need to look at overall org structure and not just job titles and headhunted by "executive search" or similar rah rah.

The term "executive search" might have meant something maybe in the 1990s, but let's put things in perspective - all sorts of recruitment agencies are calling themselves executive search firms, but how many really recruit executives (i.e. CXO and -2 level below)? Most are just hiring entry to mid level porfessionals. I recieve a few telesales calls from these agents every month as well, there is nothing executive in the way they conduct themselves.

Also I'm not disputing the fact that many 12k+ dudes call themselves "directors" inculding me, but where do they really rank in the organization? Take myself for example, I am a Director in a well known US high tech company, I have only 1 analyst and 1 administrator in my team, I am 5 levels below the CEO and have a job grade that is the first level of what is considered management level internally. If I were your client, you would probably say I'm a mid-senior level guy as well, but I know enough that I'm really just a very junior guy in the grand scheme of things. My country GM (2 levels above me) would probably be a true middle management, but hey he's got a fancy Senior Managing Director title which others will probably call him "executive" level.
Perhaps you are being too modest. As the country manager and head of the organization in Singapore, shouldn't he be considered senior management? And since you are only a couple of layers below him, you could qualify as middle management, no?

I also think salary alone does not determine how senior a person is in the management hierarchy. I was only earning four-figure salary in a previous organisation but was considered middle management because of the level of responsibility and the number of people under me. And it was not a small organisation. Perhaps also because the organisation was bottom heavy. Now, I'm earning more in another organisation but would barely be called junior management. The scope for decision making in this position is much less than previously.
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