| Today 09:42 AM |
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These insights are very helpful for an outside hire into b4. In that case, how is the increment like if I wasn't promoted from SC to manager?
A separate question: Are M1, M2, M3 actual ranks/titles or denoting the number of years of experience as that rank?
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M1 m2 m3 etcis profession. Whats the diff? Your portfolio u handle becomes bigger and depends on ur luck see whether u get bad clients. Eg. M1 handle 800k portfolio size. M2 handle 1m plus portfolio size etc etc.
and NO. Its not a confirm progression. U can have 10 years of experience and still be M1 because u just sux
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| Today 09:22 AM |
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To be exact not first year cannot promote. Is whether ur join date is eligible for the promotion cycle, ie whether you serve x numbers of months to be eligible for the appraisal.
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That's good to hear. My start date is exactly the start of their FY so I assume I'm automatically eligible for promotion then!
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| Today 09:20 AM |
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Yes the pay grade listed is quite close to actual . But maybe need to clarify with HR bec/7:3 from what I know (colleagues from mid tier) their first year cannot take part in promotion cycle. And it make sense that within the short observation cycle they would rather save the SC to mgr headcount to those who are here longer and more rounds of performance evaluation . Long past the days where the SC to mgr is easy
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These insights are very helpful for an outside hire into b4. In that case, how is the increment like if I wasn't promoted from SC to manager?
A separate question: Are M1, M2, M3 actual ranks/titles or denoting the number of years of experience as that rank?
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| Today 09:09 AM |
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Yes the pay grade listed is quite close to actual . But maybe need to clarify with HR bec/7:3 from what I know (colleagues from mid tier) their first year cannot take part in promotion cycle. And it make sense that within the short observation cycle they would rather save the SC to mgr headcount to those who are here longer and more rounds of performance evaluation . Long past the days where the SC to mgr is easy
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To be exact not first year cannot promote. Is whether ur join date is eligible for the promotion cycle, ie whether you serve x numbers of months to be eligible for the appraisal.
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| Today 09:04 AM |
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1. Wow, thanks for the concise reply. Indeed, I tried and failed but I was intending to try again, guess I'll just save my time.
2. I see a salary progression from other posts for P as such:
Does that mean I would be promoted to M1 next year, M2 the following year, with the corresponding pay scale assuming average performance and the pay scale is accurate?
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Yes the pay grade listed is quite close to actual . But maybe need to clarify with HR bec/7:3 from what I know (colleagues from mid tier) their first year cannot take part in promotion cycle. And it make sense that within the short observation cycle they would rather save the SC to mgr headcount to those who are here longer and more rounds of performance evaluation . Long past the days where the SC to mgr is easy
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| Today 08:52 AM |
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I'm an audit senior. Wanna ask.
Is it because management feel my salary too high and so cannot hire more associates?
Anyone the same feeling as me?
E.g. Oh your salary too high so you should tank 2 to 3 person workload
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| Today 08:39 AM |
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1. You can try but most likely no. People within same rank are paid the same with 0-1000 max difference but u really have to be the top performer consistently. If mid tier jump big4, hard for HR to justify for u why ur pay higher than rest
2. no
3. Yes
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1. Wow, thanks for the concise reply. Indeed, I tried and failed but I was intending to try again, guess I'll just save my time.
2. I see a salary progression from other posts for P as such:
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Tax
A1 - 3.6k
A2 - 4k
C1 - 5k
C2 - 5.5k
SC - 6.2k
M1 - 7.4k
M2 - 8.2k
M3 - 9k
SM1 - 10.4k
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Does that mean I would be promoted to M1 next year, M2 the following year, with the corresponding pay scale assuming average performance and the pay scale is accurate?
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| Today 08:36 AM |
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Anyone saw a senior manager cried before because shortage of manpower?
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| Today 08:25 AM |
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Joining P as a SC in the Tax practice as an experienced hire.
Questions:
1. Is there any room for salary negotiation?
2. How is the salary progression like? Aside from annual increment, is there inflation adjustment? If I wasn't promoted, will I still have salary increment?
3. I see that there is no AM in Tax, is SC equivalent to AM in other practices?
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1. You can try but most likely no. People within same rank are paid the same with 0-1000 max difference but u really have to be the top performer consistently. If mid tier jump big4, hard for HR to justify for u why ur pay higher than rest
2. no
3. Yes
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| Today 08:21 AM |
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Right now the trend is this: either you leave by the end of your A2 time, or just accept life and go all the way to sm/director/partner. At least the title makes you feel better with all the hours you sacrificed in your 20's.
Salary increase in big4 is a trap. Outside commercial salary never increase hor. Ppl don't regard audit as relevant at all, the longer you stay, the less likely you can leave without accepting pay cut.
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In commercial probs jump ard for pay bump/title is the fastest. The biggest scam of big 4 is lowballing fresh grad right at the start of your careers and slowly increasing the pay to industry average but called it fast progression and pay raise
lol why tahan 3-4 years to get what other industry starting pay ?
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