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Today 12:06 PM
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It’s ok because end of the day you still only have 24 hours a day.

I keep hearing people say they will stretch you more and more, but that has been going around since the 2000s.

Like a rubber band, you either learn to be elastic and adapt or snap and leave.

End of the day, if audit quality suffers, it’s the risk of the partners to decide if they are comfortable to sign or ask client for time extension.
lol I firsthand witnessed my workload increasing more than that of my previous senior of the same rank.
Today 12:01 PM
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The x3 is too misleading because prices are not 1 to 1.

By your logic, does it mean I get x110 salary in Japan?
I believe the OP's point was that our neighbours can earn 3x the equivalent salary in RM to live comfortably in their country. The average salary for fresh grads is around 2.8k RM for them. If they can earn 3.5x of $4.1k in Singapore, 16.7k RM (1.17x 3.5x), they could afford a lot things there. For us, it’s a 1:1 exchange rate, our purchasing power is limited in comparison.

With the higher salary, our neighbours are more willing to put in effort.
Today 11:44 AM
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1) Staffing for engagements may be reduced, such as going from 2 seniors and 2 associates to 1 senior and 2 associates.
2) Time allocation for engagements could be reduced, for example, shortening a 3 months engagement to 2 months.
3) You might also be asked to assist on other engagements while working on an existing one to optimise resource utilisation.
It’s ok because end of the day you still only have 24 hours a day.

I keep hearing people say they will stretch you more and more, but that has been going around since the 2000s.

Like a rubber band, you either learn to be elastic and adapt or snap and leave.

End of the day, if audit quality suffers, it’s the risk of the partners to decide if they are comfortable to sign or ask client for time extension.
Today 11:42 AM
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lol gen z bb pls stop take yourself so seriously… not becos you kpkb that’s why increase salary…. Is purely becos EP threshold changed lah

And nobody cares if we join audit or not. Always enough supply of fresh blood from neighbour who can x3 salary and work hard one

My suggestion is just go for better industry. Take your acc degree as a skill not a career
The x3 is too misleading because prices are not 1 to 1.

By your logic, does it mean I get x110 salary in Japan?
Today 11:38 AM
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If you like working until 2 am daily, working on weekends, and on public holidays while your friends are out enjoying themselves, then audit might be for you. However, you might wonder why you are working so hard yet earning less than the average fresh graduate. your neighbours can enjoy themselves, buy condos, cars etc, but you can't do those things. Is it worth it?

Of course, some will say that if you're in it for the money, you shouldn't join audit. So, do we join audit for passion or for the overtime life? Ridiculous.

As for the SCAQ, its value has decreased now. It's not necessary to have it or to stick it out for three years in Big 4 firms. I don't think hiring managers specifically look for it.
Erm you’re not wrong, but I sort of see it as a punishment for myself for not studying harder lol…
Today 11:35 AM
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currently how many concurrent engagements do auditors do?
1) Staffing for engagements may be reduced, such as going from 2 seniors and 2 associates to 1 senior and 2 associates.
2) Time allocation for engagements could be reduced, for example, shortening a 3 months engagement to 2 months.
3) You might also be asked to assist on other engagements while working on an existing one to optimise resource utilisation.
Today 11:07 AM
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cost of auditors increase.
big 4 still need to maintain cost competitiveness with their clients (i.e., MNCs and companies engaging big 4 for audit). It is unlikely that big 4 would be able to nego for a substantially higher price.
big 4 in turn have to aggressively take on many more deals to maintain profitability.
auditors pressured to decrease their turnaround time for each project, i.e., if you were paid 5k and churning ~3 engagements a year, you now get paid 6k but pressured to church 4-5 engagements a year.
currently how many concurrent engagements do auditors do?
Today 11:03 AM
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how will the workload increase?
cost of auditors increase.
big 4 still need to maintain cost competitiveness with their clients (i.e., MNCs and companies engaging big 4 for audit). It is unlikely that big 4 would be able to nego for a substantially higher price.
big 4 in turn have to aggressively take on many more deals to maintain profitability.
auditors pressured to decrease their turnaround time for each project, i.e., if you were paid 5k and churning ~3 engagements a year, you now get paid 6k but pressured to church 4-5 engagements a year.
Today 10:43 AM
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Heard one of the firms hiring is stricter now because they increased the pay. So the workload per person is going to increase.

The firm was also the most lax in hiring people in the past. It feels like you're an outsider within the company. Lol
how will the workload increase?
Today 09:54 AM
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lol gen z bb pls stop take yourself so seriously… not becos you kpkb that’s why increase salary…. Is purely becos EP threshold changed lah

And nobody cares if we join audit or not. Always enough supply of fresh blood from neighbour who can x3 salary and work hard one

My suggestion is just go for better industry. Take your acc degree as a skill not a career
Heard one of the firms hiring is stricter now because they increased the pay. So the workload per person is going to increase.

The firm was also the most lax in hiring people in the past. It feels like you're an outsider within the company. Lol
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