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Today 02:16 PM
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slogged so hard and didn't get retained...sigh...can anyone advise me if doing a LLM in the meantime could be useful? where's good to do a LLM...UK or US or local? thanks.
LLM only useful if (1) doing in the US with (2) a view to getting called to one of the state Bars there.

Otherwise, don't waste your time. Legal practice doesn't care about postgrad studies, it doesn't tell an employer about your basic legal knowledge and it's not a requirement for admission here.

If your LLB had terrible honours or was from a terrible school, an LLM won't redeem it. FCH from Nottingham better than 2:2 from NUS and LLM from Cambridge. Interviewer will know your parents have more money than you have brain cells from just one look at your CV.
Today 02:06 PM
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Legit advice needed, in school we don't learn how to craft written submissions, how do we do it effectively during our TC period? Is there a resource in the firm, do you learn it during part b, or do you just have to get scolded and learn it from seniors?
Just do first and get scolded later.

Donít expect any guidance in this industry.

The only thing you should expect is to get scolded for being stupid and not being inquisitive despite the lack of guidance.

Welcome to Legal Practice in reality.
Today 01:55 PM
Unregistered slogged so hard and didn't get retained...sigh...can anyone advise me if doing a LLM in the meantime could be useful? where's good to do a LLM...UK or US or local? thanks.
Today 12:35 PM
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Legit advice needed, in school we don't learn how to craft written submissions, how do we do it effectively during our TC period? Is there a resource in the firm, do you learn it during part b, or do you just have to get scolded and learn it from seniors?
which school? they teach legal writing and analysis locally but many students either don't take it seriously or forget everything by the time they graduate.

to get better, you have to look at good precedents, and then actually try it yourself, again and again.
Today 11:35 AM
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Legit advice needed, in school we don't learn how to craft written submissions, how do we do it effectively during our TC period? Is there a resource in the firm, do you learn it during part b, or do you just have to get scolded and learn it from seniors?
You don't learn it, you do it. Practice is like freefall so don't expect hand holding.
Today 11:33 AM
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the root of the problem is the lack of structured training in majority of local law firms

heard intl firms have way better training programmes
Not all, the FLAs' programmes are the SG firm's programmes
Today 11:31 AM
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In London Bakers is seen as **** compared to even the silver circle so...
I doubt that, and we're talking SG
Today 11:06 AM
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Lol yes. My first day of internship, I got scolded by a senior. Matri matter, asked me when something was due. I referred him to ROC. That day I learned about FJR and how my NUS education was overrated.

Then my first day of TC, work on SMC matter. I legit panicked because it wasn't ROC or FJR. My boss took me to lunch, and said this is a completely different kind of matter. Not taught on part B. But must learn how to read, look at statutes, and to be inquisitive and have initiative to find the answers.

Second day of TC, work on international arbitration. Totally no framework again. I borrowed friend's part B notes, realised all not applicable cos mostly talking about enforcement. Got scolded by boss cos apparently I didn't learn from what he told me the day before.

I changed TC to conveyancing instead and never looked back. Some people just don't have it. I'm not making excuses for myself. I understand what you are trying to say. But be kind. That type of person you are describing is not the only type that is fit to practice. Please.
the root of the problem is the lack of structured training in majority of local law firms

heard intl firms have way better training programmes
Today 10:39 AM
Unregistered Lol yes. My first day of internship, I got scolded by a senior. Matri matter, asked me when something was due. I referred him to ROC. That day I learned about FJR and how my NUS education was overrated.

Then my first day of TC, work on SMC matter. I legit panicked because it wasn't ROC or FJR. My boss took me to lunch, and said this is a completely different kind of matter. Not taught on part B. But must learn how to read, look at statutes, and to be inquisitive and have initiative to find the answers.

Second day of TC, work on international arbitration. Totally no framework again. I borrowed friend's part B notes, realised all not applicable cos mostly talking about enforcement. Got scolded by boss cos apparently I didn't learn from what he told me the day before.

I changed TC to conveyancing instead and never looked back. Some people just don't have it. I'm not making excuses for myself. I understand what you are trying to say. But be kind. That type of person you are describing is not the only type that is fit to practice. Please.
Today 10:25 AM
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Legit advice needed, in school we don't learn how to craft written submissions, how do we do it effectively during our TC period? Is there a resource in the firm, do you learn it during part b, or do you just have to get scolded and learn it from seniors?
if ur not unintelligent u get some precedents, understand their structure and how/why they are done the way they are, and u extrapolate from there

if ur a total mong, just settle for getting scolded by ur seniors and dropping out after 1 Pqe to make cupcakes

most kids who leave early on because "practice wasn't for them" had life on rails up to that point. go here, do this, tick that box, pat on head. legal practice isn't like that. initiative isn't asking ur boss if u can get him a kopi before the meeting. nobody's going to provide a rubric for doing ur work now. most millenials dont get this, they dislike what they perceive as uncertainty

not in law sch anymore dorothy. find ur own way to get the job done, no ones gonna sit u down with a handbook and patiently explain the hows and whys. training for practice could be better yeah but until it improves its a great way of weeding out the thickos and the bums who had everything handed to them on rails so they didnt have to think
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