14-12-2012 05:21 AM |
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So what type of questions to expect for their interview essay test? Got any examples?
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06-12-2012 02:09 PM |
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I see. That's a pretty good explanation. So the IT exec is better to acquire a special skillset and experience. Which means, better in long term?
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It depend on your risk appetite.
IT = Potential higher pay but higher risk of jobless during downturn. Not easy to find IT jobs when everyone chop support function first during economic crisis
AO = Low pay for generic job, but less risky because admin related job openings are less sensitive to changes in economy
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06-12-2012 11:23 AM |
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SIA AO is not the same as civil service AO. Civil service AO means they rotate you among different functions in prepeartion for you to move up to general management roles like stat board directors, perm secs or MOS.
SIA AO really means doing administration, i.e. they will rotate you among different departments doing largely administrative matters. Joining as AO means that you will be jack of all trades, i.e. easy to find work outisde. But the downside is no pay premium as there is no special skillset or experience
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I see. That's a pretty good explanation. So the IT exec is better to acquire a special skillset and experience. Which means, better in long term?
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06-12-2012 10:58 AM |
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SIA AO is not the same as civil service AO. Civil service AO means they rotate you among different functions in prepeartion for you to move up to general management roles like stat board directors, perm secs or MOS.
SIA AO really means doing administration, i.e. they will rotate you among different departments doing largely administrative matters. Joining as AO means that you will be jack of all trades, i.e. easy to find work outisde. But the downside is no pay premium as there is no special skillset or experience
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06-12-2012 10:32 AM |
DayBeast |
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SIA rotates you every 2 years because the AO is essentially a leadership route.. it is called Administrative Officer for a reason.. you are going to be in administration of the company.. so it wants you to have a broad-based exposure of the company..
You could possibly enter those BIG IT firms in a smaller position first?
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Ya, I know. But only if u stick with SIA right? If I were to leave, the AO rojak exp will be useful ma?
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06-12-2012 10:11 AM |
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Originally Posted by DayBeast
But from the job description, it's not a really very technical role right? I am looking to gain some exp there first. Microsoft, google, apple, this kind of big IT companies where will take a look at me one. Somemore, i heard AO every 2 years rotate, then the exp will be quite rojak right, like that easy to find other job when u leave meh?
Anyone here works in SIA as IT exec? can shed some light?
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SIA rotates you every 2 years because the AO is essentially a leadership route.. it is called Administrative Officer for a reason.. you are going to be in administration of the company.. so it wants you to have a broad-based exposure of the company..
You could possibly enter those BIG IT firms in a smaller position first?
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06-12-2012 10:03 AM |
DayBeast |
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Mai siao.. AO LAH.. IT exec just waiting to go down hill only.
SIA is not even a tech company.. they are better off outsourcing their IT needs..
if you IT exec in microsoft, google, yahoo, ebay, apple, htc, xiao mi.. then it is a whole new ball game...
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But from the job description, it's not a really very technical role right? I am looking to gain some exp there first. Microsoft, google, apple, this kind of big IT companies where will take a look at me one. Somemore, i heard AO every 2 years rotate, then the exp will be quite rojak right, like that easy to find other job when u leave meh?
Anyone here works in SIA as IT exec? can shed some light?
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06-12-2012 09:56 AM |
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Mai siao.. AO LAH.. IT exec just waiting to go down hill only.
SIA is not even a tech company.. they are better off outsourcing their IT needs..
if you IT exec in microsoft, google, yahoo, ebay, apple, htc, xiao mi.. then it is a whole new ball game...
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06-12-2012 09:50 AM |
DayBeast |
so which one is better ah? AO or IT exec?
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05-12-2012 09:32 AM |
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Depends on whether you mean manager title or manager grade.
Since they give out manager title at M1 grade, you can be called manager after promoting 2-3 times, so most deg grads will get their manager title in 6-8 years depend on performance. But this is a fake title and your pay & benefit is still like executive and company will consider you as non-manager staff internally.
Real manager grades are M4 & above, so most people either never make it this far or take about 15-20 years.
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I have a friend working in SIA as station manager, not sure if his kind is real manager or just fake manager title.
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