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Originally Posted by Unregistered

As someone who has joined both, ncs, nec and go tech. I can tell you all tech company treats you like ****.
Cause we are all replaceable by fresh grad.

My suggestion is, join each company to learn for 2 to 3 years. Then recycle around them.
I have seen colleagues who quit to go outside then they come back few years later.

Basically the idea is to get paid and gain experience.
Tech changes all the time, staying in one company does no good.

Plus a candidate with 3 to 5 years in numerous tech company is more valuable.
Than one with 10 years in 1 same company and no progression.

And be prepared to deal with lots of impostor
Alot of impostors in tech. My division have a software team but most of them are just "managers", my boss ask why our software team outsource software work to outside company?

Its funny cause even the infra team outsource the work to outside contractor.
Its like nobody in ST knows how to do any work other than sign paper. Raise dorm
Prepare document. All paper work pusher only.

And you wonder why they can get promoted.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For STE, E5 SCH 5.5k+, FCH 6k+.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone know what are the salary for the current grades:
E4:?
E5:?
E6:?
M1:?
M2:?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If not, then join which company?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Was ST and Accenture staff previously, my advise is don't join any of them.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Got an offer from both ST and Accenture. Fresh grad SWE role. Any advice on which company will be better in this market climate?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

EXACTLY.
I see a lot of this kind in ST, my blood boils. Some can even come late at 930 am, then say he rush to canteen to eat breakfast until 10 am. Then sit in office 1 hour check email, then go lunch already 11 am until 130 pm and pretend sneak out meeting at 2 pm but he just book meeting room, sit there alone with another colleague for "discussion" - aka chit chat session.

Sometimes they even book the meeting room in the morning but the meeting room is empty one, one time they got caught with bags inside but nobody inside up till 215 pm friday. means they went out 10 am lunch until 215 pm still not back. got ppl want to use meeting room at 230 pm.

alot of pattern here.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your one where got more powerful than my one anot? This fellow everyday 11 am slowly stroll into office slowly take his time to brew his coffee, pretend to do work. After that everyday 5pm panggang like nobody business like that.