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Old man 16-10-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29096)
Keyboard warrior, what makes you think i'm not staying in a landed? :)

Just that I don't really put down other people who stay in a HDB but have an honest living.

That's the difference. I think enough has been said. Lead your life, and if life throws you a curve ball, be sure to come back and read this statement that you have written.

You don't have to sound too righteous. What the guy wrote is right.

Unregistered 16-10-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29095)
In Singapore, if you don't live in a private property, you are actually a nobody. That's a reality. Noone will tell you this in your face in the real world. We are now in an online forum so people will tell you the hard facts.

Those who live in hdb - nobody
Those who live in condo - almost there
Those who live in a landed property - you've arrived and indeed a somebody. Only 5% of Singaporeans live in a landed property

Work harder to be a somebody in your life

there are those landed property in geyland, macpherson, lease left 30 yrs cheap only, and almost like slum. That is arrived? boy, r y stupiak or wat. i know people who live in hdb, but own biz with annual profit > 1m.

Unregistered 16-10-2012 02:36 PM

nsicka The
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 25602)
i so sad now. spent 5-6 years sick no work mostly hospital
then start work slowly work part time
now only got 1st full time job at 32 year

how to do savings :(

he BS la.

he got HDB but annual income 450k.

I ask u, annual income 450k how to buy HDB. He want to BS oso say annual income 140k. this forum is f.o.s.

Unregistered 16-10-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 22736)
100k used to be a big deal 10 years ago, but it's the average pay for degree holders in their thirties. 200k is within reach of the average grad in his forties.

300k and beyond requires some luck and effort.

hey stupid. what is the income ceiling for HDB? 15k right. x 12 is 180k. So on average most ppl cannot buy hdb as exceed income ceiling. so why so many people (80%) of population stay in HDB. wanna bull oso check ur facts la. I run a biz pay my staff with degree 4k only. u dont want i can get others. bs lor 200k 300k a year at age 30.

Unregistered 16-10-2012 02:49 PM

Sans modelKa
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 23443)
curious, where do you get all your wealth from?

do you have initial wealth or working in really good jobs?

always wondered how come people had so much assets. please share.

am a early twenties kid. still in school.

thanks:)

they get their wealth from being kiasu and then bull-ing in this forum. life is about work and passion, not everything related to money. dont believe everything u read here. 80% BS one.

Unregistered 16-10-2012 03:33 PM

i also want to contribute to the castle building here

age 29

cash: 2.8mil
property: 2 condo valued at $5.8mil, 2 terrace valued at 6.3mil and 1 semi d valued at 11mil
stocks: 4.5mil in stocks, monthly average dividend of 32k
business revenue: 46.2 mil as of last FY
cars: 2 cars valued at 950k collectively
CPF: 1.3mil

happens, but not sure where

Unregistered 16-10-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Old man (Post 29104)
You don't have to sound too righteous. What the guy wrote is right.

No lah, I'm not righteous, I'm just a nice guy :)

I can tell there are alot of people here with nothing but trying to blow tonnes of hot air. So I just play along. cheers.

Unregistered 16-10-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29106)
he BS la.

he got HDB but annual income 450k.

I ask u, annual income 450k how to buy HDB. He want to BS oso say annual income 140k. this forum is f.o.s.

Get your facts right. The income ceiling is imposed only when you buy BTO (ie buy direct from HDB).

If you earn millions, you can still buy a resale HDB flat from the open market. Now, go do your school homework.

Unregistered 16-10-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29107)
hey stupid. what is the income ceiling for HDB? 15k right. x 12 is 180k. So on average most ppl cannot buy hdb as exceed income ceiling. so why so many people (80%) of population stay in HDB. wanna bull oso check ur facts la. I run a biz pay my staff with degree 4k only. u dont want i can get others. bs lor 200k 300k a year at age 30.

You are the stupid one, ignoramus.

Lots of prudent high earners buy HDB resale flats. There's no income ceiling on resale flats. Get your facts right before calling others stupid. You're the idiot.

I want to own landed 17-10-2012 08:54 AM

Can anyone advise where I can buy a good value landed property? My budget is $2mil. Thanks.



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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29095)
In Singapore, if you don't live in a private property, you are actually a nobody. That's a reality. Noone will tell you this in your face in the real world. We are now in an online forum so people will tell you the hard facts.

Those who live in hdb - nobody
Those who live in condo - almost there
Those who live in a landed property - you've arrived and indeed a somebody. Only 5% of Singaporeans live in a landed property

Work harder to be a somebody in your life


Unregistered 17-10-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29116)
No lah, I'm not righteous, I'm just a nice guy :)

I can tell there are alot of people here with nothing but trying to blow tonnes of hot air. So I just play along. cheers.

thanks, i'm not a corporate highflyer as compared to my peers. I'm contented because i worked hard since i graduated but taking a step backward to enjoy life with my kid now.

Unregistered 17-10-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29113)
i also want to contribute to the castle building here

age 29

cash: 2.8mil
property: 2 condo valued at $5.8mil, 2 terrace valued at 6.3mil and 1 semi d valued at 11mil
stocks: 4.5mil in stocks, monthly average dividend of 32k
business revenue: 46.2 mil as of last FY
cars: 2 cars valued at 950k collectively
CPF: 1.3mil

happens, but not sure where

Definitely happens. However, CPF of $1.3m is quite impossible at 29.

Unregistered 17-10-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29095)
In Singapore, if you don't live in a private property, you are actually a nobody. That's a reality. Noone will tell you this in your face in the real world. We are now in an online forum so people will tell you the hard facts.

Those who live in hdb - nobody
Those who live in condo - almost there
Those who live in a landed property - you've arrived and indeed a somebody. Only 5% of Singaporeans live in a landed property

Work harder to be a somebody in your life


I agree completely to this.

This is the best gauge of whether you've arrived in Singapore.

Nothing else can show your status than saying you live in a landed property.

Wish i can purchase a landed property one day in the future!

Unregistered 17-10-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29190)
I agree completely to this.

This is the best gauge of whether you've arrived in Singapore.

Nothing else can show your status than saying you live in a landed property.

Wish i can purchase a landed property one day in the future!

Those in the far west end of the island are quite cheap.

Unregistered 17-10-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29191)
Those in the far west end of the island are quite cheap.

Really?? Where? Which landed estate?
Can I get for less than $2m? Can share info?
Thanks!

Unregistered 17-10-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29194)
Really?? Where? Which landed estate?
Can I get for less than $2m? Can share info?
Thanks!

There are lots of landed houses under 2 mio. Do a search in propertyguru.

Unregistered 18-10-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29194)
Really?? Where? Which landed estate?
Can I get for less than $2m? Can share info?
Thanks!

If you to propertyguru and do a search, there are landed estates in the Jurong area. These are the Corporation, Westwood and Pioneer estates. Corporation and Westwood estates are relatively newer. Prices are now about $1.5m - $2m for terraces. Prices are in an uptrend since the announcement in 2008 of the Jurong Lake District 2nd CBD plan. Many people and agents are predicting prices will go beyond $2m and above once the area is fully developed. Any price below $2m today is a bargain. I think about 20 units now selling below $2m.

Unregistered 18-10-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29205)
If you to propertyguru and do a search, there are landed estates in the Jurong area. These are the Corporation, Westwood and Pioneer estates. Corporation and Westwood estates are relatively newer. Prices are now about $1.5m - $2m for terraces. Prices are in an uptrend since the announcement in 2008 of the Jurong Lake District 2nd CBD plan. Many people and agents are predicting prices will go beyond $2m and above once the area is fully developed. Any price below $2m today is a bargain. I think about 20 units now selling below $2m.

Thanks for the tips.

Unregistered 18-10-2012 11:37 PM

I have worked for 5 years. Saving for downpayment to buy a resale HDB. After I buy the flat, after a few years, I can sell and buy a landed property if my career takes off. Looks like landed is the way to go for the top performing Singaporeans.

Unregistered 19-10-2012 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29231)
I have worked for 5 years. Saving for downpayment to buy a resale HDB. After I buy the flat, after a few years, I can sell and buy a landed property if my career takes off. Looks like landed is the way to go for the top performing Singaporeans.

Haha .... if your career takes off.

doctor 19-10-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29205)
If you to propertyguru and do a search, there are landed estates in the Jurong area. These are the Corporation, Westwood and Pioneer estates. Corporation and Westwood estates are relatively newer. Prices are now about $1.5m - $2m for terraces. Prices are in an uptrend since the announcement in 2008 of the Jurong Lake District 2nd CBD plan. Many people and agents are predicting prices will go beyond $2m and above once the area is fully developed. Any price below $2m today is a bargain. I think about 20 units now selling below $2m.

Saw in propertyguru, only 6 units in Westwood selling at $1.5m.

3 storey, 5 rooms. Built up about 3000 sft.

Quite low price on a psf basis.

Unregistered 19-10-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29205)
If you to propertyguru and do a search, there are landed estates in the Jurong area. These are the Corporation, Westwood and Pioneer estates. Corporation and Westwood estates are relatively newer. Prices are now about $1.5m - $2m for terraces. Prices are in an uptrend since the announcement in 2008 of the Jurong Lake District 2nd CBD plan. Many people and agents are predicting prices will go beyond $2m and above once the area is fully developed. Any price below $2m today is a bargain. I think about 20 units now selling below $2m.

this is true. 1.5m - 2 mil to secure a built-in space of 3000 plus square feet translates to only about 500 plus psf FREEHOLD .... whilst any freehold condo usually goes for 1200 psf or more nowadays. prices for landed property nowadays are still at a bargain, but this situation may not remain for long, as more Singaporeans become cognizant of this fact.

Unregistered 20-10-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29263)
this is true. 1.5m - 2 mil to secure a built-in space of 3000 plus square feet translates to only about 500 plus psf FREEHOLD .... whilst any freehold condo usually goes for 1200 psf or more nowadays. prices for landed property nowadays are still at a bargain, but this situation may not remain for long, as more Singaporeans become cognizant of this fact.

500psf is even lower than HDB flat psf.

I have a exec apartment in bishan which I paid very cheaply many years ago and now have cleared all my loan. It is now worth $900k.

If I sell my flat, I will get $900k as downpayment for a $1.5m terrace house in Westwood. And loan $600k. Or I can ask my parents to sell their 5 room flat now worth $800k. Can combine and buy the terrace fully paid. We can all live together in a big house.

Unregistered 20-10-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29277)
500psf is even lower than HDB flat psf.

I have a exec apartment in bishan which I paid very cheaply many years ago and now have cleared all my loan. It is now worth $900k.

If I sell my flat, I will get $900k as downpayment for a $1.5m terrace house in Westwood. And loan $600k. Or I can ask my parents to sell their 5 room flat now worth $800k. Can combine and buy the terrace fully paid. We can all live together in a big house.

This is a great idea. Thanks for the tips. Will discuss with my parents if they like the idea.

Unregistered 20-10-2012 08:16 PM

My savings are in my freehold terrace house, 2.4M no loan

Unregistered 20-10-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29277)
500psf is even lower than HDB flat psf.

I have a exec apartment in bishan which I paid very cheaply many years ago and now have cleared all my loan. It is now worth $900k.

If I sell my flat, I will get $900k as downpayment for a $1.5m terrace house in Westwood. And loan $600k. Or I can ask my parents to sell their 5 room flat now worth $800k. Can combine and buy the terrace fully paid. We can all live together in a big house.

Good idea for you and parents to stay together. It will be a worthwhile move. You can sell when the terrace house hits $2.5m or higher. Demand for Westwood terraces is high. At $1.5m, it is definitely a buy if you can afford.

Unregistered 21-10-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29293)
Good idea for you and parents to stay together. It will be a worthwhile move. You can sell when the terrace house hits $2.5m or higher. Demand for Westwood terraces is high. At $1.5m, it is definitely a buy if you can afford.

Don't sell at $2.5m, it will go higher than $3m when the Jurong Lake District is ready. With built up area of 3000sft, even at $3m, the psf is only $1000psf. This is still cheap.

Unregistered 21-10-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29298)
Don't sell at $2.5m, it will go higher than $3m when the Jurong Lake District is ready. With built up area of 3000sft, even at $3m, the psf is only $1000psf. This is still cheap.

You are right. When the Hospitals in Jurong Gateway is ready, there will be many rich doctors working there. Also when the Jurong new CBD is ready, you will have many senior executives - CEOs, CFOs, EVPs, etc - working there. These rich executives earn millions every year, so they will want to live in big houses, with at least 3000 square feet in built up sizes. So, they will likely buy the terraces and semi-Ds in the Westwood or Corporation estates. $3m is no big deal for them as they earn million dollar annual salary packages. If you have the means, you can also buy these cheap $1.5m houses and keep and then can rent out to the foreign doctors and executives (foriegners cannot buy landed properties) at about $15k - $20k a month. This is a good long term investment.

Wiseman1 21-10-2012 06:25 PM

You guys are really ignorant clowns, still wanna pretend to be smart to give advice. No one use total built-up area to calculate psf price when it comes to landed properties, you gonna use total land area to calculate!

You can have a small piece of land but still have high total built up area if the plot ratio is raised but what is the point? Obviously only when the land is bigger is it considered a good buy.

The total land area is only 1733sf, which means the psf is close to $900 based on price of $1.5m plus, which is not exactly cheap for a place like Jurong

Nowadays property agents are cunning when it comes to landed properties, they choose to quote psf prices based on total built up area instead of landed area to mask the true psf price which is much higher.....unscrupulous!!

Unregistered 21-10-2012 09:55 PM

Well, technically all psf for condos are also built-up psf. :p

Unregistered 21-10-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiseman1 (Post 29315)
You guys are really ignorant clowns, still wanna pretend to be smart to give advice. No one use total built-up area to calculate psf price when it comes to landed properties, you gonna use total land area to calculate!

You can have a small piece of land but still have high total built up area if the plot ratio is raised but what is the point? Obviously only when the land is bigger is it considered a good buy.

The total land area is only 1733sf, which means the psf is close to $900 based on price of $1.5m plus, which is not exactly cheap for a place like Jurong

Nowadays property agents are cunning when it comes to landed properties, they choose to quote psf prices based on total built up area instead of landed area to mask the true psf price which is much higher.....unscrupulous!!

why use derogatory terms? everyone's here just to share opinions.

everybody knows landed there are 2 psf to calculate- built-in and land.

the point is that comparing "Living Space" ie built-in for a landed house, the amount of actual space to live in is much higher for each dollar than a condo in the sky.

this is important if considering a couple who is planning for 2 children or more, or want to stay with parents. if this is the case landed is more value for money than a 1000 psf leasehold condo.

real wise men discuss, not argue like children.

Unregistered 21-10-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29323)
why use derogatory terms? everyone's here just to share opinions.

everybody knows landed there are 2 psf to calculate- built-in and land.

the point is that comparing "Living Space" ie built-in for a landed house, the amount of actual space to live in is much higher for each dollar than a condo in the sky.

this is important if considering a couple who is planning for 2 children or more, or want to stay with parents. if this is the case landed is more value for money than a 1000 psf leasehold condo.

real wise men discuss, not argue like children.

Looks like you are the true wise man. The guy is actually a sore loser. Hahaha.

Unregistered 22-10-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29293)
Good idea for you and parents to stay together. It will be a worthwhile move. You can sell when the terrace house hits $2.5m or higher. Demand for Westwood terraces is high. At $1.5m, it is definitely a buy if you can afford.

r u a property agent? If demand is high, why still got "5 units left" for "only 1.5m". Or is it you think everyone is singapore stupid, dunno a bargain when they see one.

Unregistered 22-10-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29334)
r u a property agent? If demand is high, why still got "5 units left" for "only 1.5m". Or is it you think everyone is singapore stupid, dunno a bargain when they see one.

also there is a big difference, stay in bishan, vs stay in woodlands or jurong.

Unregistered 22-10-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29300)
You are right. When the Hospitals in Jurong Gateway is ready, there will be many rich doctors working there. Also when the Jurong new CBD is ready, you will have many senior executives - CEOs, CFOs, EVPs, etc - working there. These rich executives earn millions every year, so they will want to live in big houses, with at least 3000 square feet in built up sizes. So, they will likely buy the terraces and semi-Ds in the Westwood or Corporation estates. $3m is no big deal for them as they earn million dollar annual salary packages. If you have the means, you can also buy these cheap $1.5m houses and keep and then can rent out to the foreign doctors and executives (foriegners cannot buy landed properties) at about $15k - $20k a month. This is a good long term investment.

wow! you really think people are donkey here.. if anyone earn millions a year they will stay in holland or orchard! who want to stay at westwood if earn millions a year. u go jurong point on a saturday evening and then see if u will stay at westwood if u r filthy rich.

Unregistered 22-10-2012 10:48 AM

There are many sore losers in this forum.

People here are just sharing information. It is up to them to make the decision. These sore losers think people here in the forum are stupid.

Unregistered 22-10-2012 06:45 PM

Property prices in the Jurong area are rising fast due to the Jurong Lake District development.

Just look at condo prices in the Centris, Caspian. The bigger units now selling at more than $1.4mil, and these are just 1200 square feet in area.

Also there is a new cluster housing development in Westwood Avenue called "The Woods". The cluster terraces there now going for more than $2.3mil and likely to go higher when they are ready, which is expected to be ready soon.

So those terraces there which is selling for $1.5m is a big bargain. Prices will climb to $1.8m - $2m and above when The Woods TOP.

Unregistered 23-10-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29357)
Property prices in the Jurong area are rising fast due to the Jurong Lake District development.

Just look at condo prices in the Centris, Caspian. The bigger units now selling at more than $1.4mil, and these are just 1200 square feet in area.

Also there is a new cluster housing development in Westwood Avenue called "The Woods". The cluster terraces there now going for more than $2.3mil and likely to go higher when they are ready, which is expected to be ready soon.

So those terraces there which is selling for $1.5m is a big bargain. Prices will climb to $1.8m - $2m and above when The Woods TOP.

Good point. Yes from my many years of property investing, the most important thing about property is location. While it is true that many investors shun Jurong in the past, the announcement that the Jurong Lake District will be transformed into the 2nd CBD changes everything.

So not surprising why prices in Jurong are rising fast, especially the landed properties in Westwood and Corporation estates.

Unregistered 23-10-2012 10:56 PM

Confirmed landed property prices in Westwood and Corporation are rising fast.

Unregistered 24-10-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 29397)
Confirmed landed property prices in Westwood and Corporation are rising fast.

There are 4 units in Westwood selling at $1.5m, these will be sold within the next 2 months.

The next deal will close at $1.65m, then $1.75m, then $1.85m, then $2m and this go higher and higher in 2013.


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