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I am in the same situation, failed the recent mmed, planning to try again, just unsure if I should stay on in ops or leave and take as private candidate.

Can I ask are there gps clinics/chain group out there that can offer a similar experience to ops?
I did get some private gp experience (3mth) as part of my residency but most cases seen there are acute, statuary/work permit checks, health screening.
Was wondering if there are other gp groups or smaller clinics with more emphasis on chronic disease care (which is more relevant for mmed)

Be very careful as foreign graduate coming to Singapore. If degree not recognized, learn about your career path or decide early on whether you are staying in SG or not. If not staying, clear exams as fast as possible and move or else you will be stuck in the manpower pool forever. No one will care for your woes because everyone is busy trying to make some research paper or project happen to increase their bonuses (at your expense as their manpower). No one will help you navigate the medical landscape because the other IMGs are just as clueless as you are.
Not sustainable long term. Good luck. SG medic life is tough.

Ur closest bet will be those that operate family medicine clinics like frontier, Keat houng FMC, Chinatown FMC , NTUC FMC etc.
They not going to pay u well though.
U can't have Ur cake and eat it.
Life is as such.
Anyway private candidate can clear one. M.med is about performance

So you are saying that SG GP doesn't make $300,000-$400,000 a year?

Oh, I have no doubt some will make that or even more.
Question is, do you?
Revenue and profit is different hor.

I guess you dont then

Yes I do.

But I am not a SG GP.

Anyone know how the different clusters did.
My cluster had 68% pass rate

Can I ask for mmed fm, is there any good books or resources that we can use to prepare for the exam?
I am looking for exam specific/targeted ones and not clinical text books like gorolls primary medicine..

Most other post grad exams (e.g mrcp, mrcs, mrcog etc) have their own exam targeted resource books. For family medicine, the only exam resource book that I can find is the mrcgpuk related ones (but that is UK based), not sure how useful is it for local mmed.

Asking from R2 perspective, still got 2 years but think we should start studying early..

Lol. Got pple actually read goro one meh?
Aiyah. An la.
No textbook
Beg Ur senior for past year paper.
U hit r3 someone should pass a whole fodder of pass year for u to do
In the mean time learn whatever u can

Every year sure got a chest pain, COPD, contraception, ethics , poor control control, mental health, paed case, ECG interpretation, one ent/eye case , one werid werid case.
The blueprint is there.
Maybe sometimes luck not on Ur side.
Learn everything u can now, don't slack and eventually can pass

So can i confirm. As a resident I go though 3 years of training. At the end i take an exam and 50% chance of passing and 50% chance of going back to being a MOPEX?

Bro u missing the point
Exam is just a formality check at the end of residency
I mean four months after end of residency

It is the camaraderie, fellowship, bonds that you build that will power thru your career

The exam is however very important, especially if one is keen to remain in public service.
If a resident doesn't clear the mmed exam, he only has mbbs and is quite frankly no different from a NSF go goes out and locum or a baby mo mopexing in ops...

It is about time Singapore have a system where any new graduates after year (eg 2025) must have MMed Fam Med in order to work as a primary care physician in private practice.

Singapore has residency system now which is what the States has.

Grandfather the older GPs into the system.

But those who cannot successfully complete residency and pass the exit exams will then be forever MOPEX.

Medicine has this rigid exam emphasis and system. You got to pass the exams. After you pass it then you can do whatever you want. have a practice of interest. Focused practice etc. The exam is a formality. It also indicates that at one point in time you did know enough information to pass the exams etc. In truth many things are forgotten as time goes depending on what kind of practice you have.

I have never failed a single exam since jc.
Cleared multiple post grads exams and have a relatively uneventful exit
My peers failed a couple of times and had to extend their training

But i always felt exam is never a good measure of one clinical and ethical standards
Honestly it is a matter of luck

Like a driving test

For those of you who have failed, just try again
Ignore those naysayers
Like a driving test, u will pass eventually
And nobody will care after u pass or how many times u tried

Congrats for being smart.

Do you know if you fail x times you are banned from taking again?

Just had a chat with my faculty. Apparently the passing rate for retakers (2nd and 3rd attempts- yes you are only allowed 3 attempts) are really much much lower than those with 1st attempts.
They are recommending those who fail to retake, but they also want to taper their expectations.

End of the day it's about intention to pass.
The m.med for everyone is scary the first time round. When I go back as invigilator, seeing those hallway gives me the creeps too.
Second time will be ok as long as u plan to pass
If u chin chin chye chye of cse lower chance.

No big diff la end of day.
M.med give u career prospects in public.
Other than that no diff.
End of the day outside world might be better.
U become popular open chain
Sell off 10 years later can retire.

General or specific to your institution? the 68% one?

Ballpark figures for those retaking % this year?

Obviously discriminatory policies at play
Examiners should be blinded to how many attempts the
candidate has.
Why only 3 attempts allowed?
Such elitiist culture.

May I ask are these family medicine clinics government institution or private clinics? I see that many of them are official partners of public institution and is dedicated for the step down care of their patients.
E.g lakeside, Keat hong, frontier are partners of nuhs, Chinatown and tampiness are partners of singhealth etc.

So do the staff at these fmc get paid and work closer to a private gp or government (I.e ops) fp?

we need a structural exam reform.
i suspect that SI didnt provide good enough training.

any SI that has less than 80% pass rate, will have their program funding cut for next 3 years.

does the fish rot from the head or the tail?

any books or courses to prepare for the YLLSOM final year exams?

Are you IMG?

Yes. Trying to increase the length of this reply

Good luck! As an IMG do you have to take the viva exams too? Or only the written?

how come img need to take yll exams?

Prolly IMG has med degree not recognized by MOH. That's why. Is good to have them take eam. All other first world country will require IMG take some exam to prove their proficiency unless they grad from a country where their degree is recognized. Some even still get all IMG to take exams just to be safe.

are you a yllsom student? please dm me.

HO here. Don't see many posts on this. Any thoughts on the preventive medicine residency? Or doing occupational medicine? How will this make me any different from someone with a nonmedical degree getting an MPH? Thank you all.

Non medical degree getting mph usually is a waste of money
Medical grad with mph also useless. U need to complete entire public health residency
Then moh will pay u ac pay.
It is the ac pay that is gd

Write papers, do policy work, but baseline most impt is the ac pay.

easier to ask someone from yll directly if you have personal friends. there's many resources available, but some are pretty sensitive, no one will randomly send to a stranger online. easier to ask a friend.

How much is AC pay?

Thanks (making it 10 characters )

Is there any value in the mmed fm prep course and bridging course, given the abysmal pass rate? (Or is it really just down to one's luck, nerves and aptitude?)

Yes important.

Medical exams is very much about "group think'
Do what everyone else does.
Dont be different. Be like same as everyone.
Dont stand out.
Unless you aiming to be top candidate.

In real life though if you want to succeed have to stand out.
Its a restrictive profession that makes smart people turn into dumb followers
I

Slightly strange question to ask, is it common or wierd to seek medical treatment at the workplace you are working?
I work in ops, I have a chronic condition that's needs treatment based on screening that I done outside. Not sure if it is wise to seek treatment at my ops, or even ops from my cluster given that I am working there.

Is it common for doctors to seek treatment from their own department they working in?

If it is an ops condition should be okie lah.

Everybody will have some eczema or Htn or dm or hld
Not like cancer or tadalafil resistant erectile dysfunction or something confidential.

i thought s/he graduated from abroad and hence sitting for final year medical exam locally. therefore, no contacts and asking for help here.

like the other poster have said, if common conditions, then seek treatment locally. if sensitive conditions, you are better off elsewhere to not strain your relationship with others within the team