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Unregistered 14-09-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145529)
What about the progression? Is it comparable to the B4?

Not sure, but did you get a TC offer from them? Because HR said they usually don't take in trainees unless the partner specifically wants you - the assoc I spoke to joined after doing TC elsewhere

Unregistered 14-09-2020 03:07 PM

Hi, whats the progression for Ong and Basil?

Unregistered 14-09-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145535)
Not sure, but did you get a TC offer from them? Because HR said they usually don't take in trainees unless the partner specifically wants you - the assoc I spoke to joined after doing TC elsewhere

Might have an opportunity there. Just wanted to know the difference in progression for different fla/jlv and how they compare to the B4.

Unregistered 14-09-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145530)
Equity partner yes.

For junior/ salaried partner in a JP, about $15-20k per month depending on the seniority and firm. If just made JP, will be on the lower end. The more senior the higher the salary of course.

No im a JP

Unregistered 14-09-2020 05:54 PM

does anyone know what the progression at slb is like?

Unregistered 14-09-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145550)
Might have an opportunity there. Just wanted to know the difference in progression for different fla/jlv and how they compare to the B4.

may I ask how did you come across this opportunity? you interned there before?

Unregistered 14-09-2020 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145558)
No im a JP

Kpmg deloitte ey or pwc?

Unregistered 14-09-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145569)
Kpmg deloitte ey or pwc?

None of the above. Big 4 Law

Unregistered 14-09-2020 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145452)
Updated figures as of 2020:

NQ. 1PQE. 2PQE. 3PQE. 4PQE
A&G 5,600. 6,600. 7,600. 9,000
Drew 5,600. 6,800. 8,000. 9,200
R&T 5,800. 6,600. 7,600. 8,800. 9,300
WongP 5,400. 6,100. 7,200. 8,300 (after temp 10% cut)
Rodyk 5,000.
Baker 7,500. 8,500. 9,500.
SLB 5,400.

Collated from the recent few comments. Please update/correct/add on accordingly. For other firms too.

Update #2 - Thanks for new inputs please keep them coming

does anybody know what's the progression for dentons? beyond nq pay. tq!

Unregistered 14-09-2020 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145322)
Hi all in this forum I would just like to say that I'm a KCL student who got offered CC TC

Which partner's dick did you suck to get it?

Unregistered 15-09-2020 12:16 AM

Stand up for men's rights in SG
 
s://.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/irr8vm/why_does_no_one_stand_up_for_mens_rights_in/

Unregistered 15-09-2020 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145578)
Which partner's dick did you suck to get it?

My significant other.

Unregistered 15-09-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145582)
My significant other.

My bethrothed

Unregistered 15-09-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145578)
Which partner's dick did you suck to get it?

Im a male so whats ur problem?

Unregistered 15-09-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145576)
does anybody know what's the progression for dentons? beyond nq pay. tq!

trainee -> associate - > senior associate -> junior partner -> partner -> retire

Unregistered 15-09-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145588)
Im a male so whats ur problem?

wow did u just assume ur own gender

Unregistered 15-09-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145592)
wow did u just assume ur own gender

So what if i did? Please be diverse and inclusive.

Unregistered 15-09-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145588)
Im a male so whats ur problem?

why can't a male suck a partner's dick? talk about being diverse and inclusive

Unregistered 15-09-2020 02:00 PM

People in this forum are so so so damn bitter haha. Dude man, go work on yourself to get the job you want instead of spreading hate here or trashing overseas grads for taking jobs

Unregistered 15-09-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145335)
Handle it like an adult.

If you are really leaving with a good reason (and there's no reason why this can't be because you think you fit better into a different firm, ofc don't be an idiot and say "I think that firm is better than yours"), be upfront about it, email the partner and cc HR, thank them for the opportunity to interview and explain why you want to withdraw from the training.

If you are leaving for very superficial reasons, lie.

Personally, I think the timelines are very unreasonable and TC withdrawals, while not common, are not rare either.

Can't agree more. Loads of students fear the so-called "blacklist" and "inner-circle" between HRs of the various law firms but I really doubt it works that way. As someone who signed with a different firm after verbally "accepting" (but not signing) an offer at a Big 4, the key is just to make sure that you are confident in your reasons why you want to move. At the end of the day, a firm isn't going to sweat losing a prospective trainee given that the market is saturated with them. Just don't be a dick about it and brag about moving to a bigger firm or one that pays more.

I eventually moved overseas after my 6 months at the firm and the partners were incredibly understanding and kind about it, offering me advice and encouragement that the move would be beneficial + a good opportunity and asking that we stay connected etc. It is just about handling the situation properly.

Unregistered 15-09-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145597)
why can't a male suck a partner's dick? talk about being diverse and inclusive

Are u a lawyer. I am accusing another of being non diverse because i was prevented from assuming my own gender. My response was not in relation to sucking dick.

Unregistered 15-09-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145599)
People in this forum are so so so damn bitter haha. Dude man, go work on yourself to get the job you want instead of spreading hate here or trashing overseas grads for taking jobs

Cos they from kcl, cant get tc or cant get retained or asked to leave or cant make partner so therefore bitter.

Unregistered 15-09-2020 04:50 PM

Recruiters
 
Which recruiting firm n recruiters are good / bad? Pls share

Unregistered 15-09-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145609)
Which recruiting firm n recruiters are good / bad? Pls share

Heard mixed reviews on them.

Unregistered 15-09-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145610)
Heard mixed reviews on them.

Pure search? Ansa? Jlegal? Which ones good bad

Unregistered 15-09-2020 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145609)
Which recruiting firm n recruiters are good / bad? Pls share

Heard they come on this forum n pretend to be lawyer or student n grind their axes here

Unregistered 15-09-2020 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145619)
Heard they come on this forum n pretend to be lawyer or student n grind their axes here

I can see the business need for them to stir the wok

Unregistered 16-09-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145625)
I can see the business need for them to stir the wok

You need make good egg fried rice

Unregistered 16-09-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145647)
You need make good egg fried rice

Strange went quiet maybe OP is right the forum is infested w recruiterd

Unregistered 16-09-2020 01:52 PM

What are the top international firms in SG? For job not for TC

Unregistered 16-09-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145654)
What are the top international firms in SG? For job not for TC

King n spalding. In 2 yrs u earn at least 15k

Unregistered 16-09-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145655)
King n spalding. In 2 yrs u earn at least 15k

Im a recruiter btw and yes we pound the forums. Its like cambridge analytica or influencers. Law firms beware who u cross

Unregistered 16-09-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145655)
King n spalding. In 2 yrs u earn at least 15k

A 2pqe who joins Links SG can get 16 to 17k....

Unregistered 16-09-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145664)
A 2pqe who joins Links SG can get 16 to 17k....

Thanks recruiter

Unregistered 16-09-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145654)
What are the top international firms in SG? For job not for TC

US firms. Can get 20+k as an NQ

Unregistered 16-09-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145669)
US firms. Can get 20+k as an NQ

Thanks recruiter

Unregistered 16-09-2020 09:27 PM

I know it is a bad time to quit a job but I think it has reached a point where I need to walk out of the place that is making me unhappy. I know that myself and many of my colleagues are all replaceable since there are plenty of bright eyed graduates looking to replace us.

I want to ask how difficult it is to start out your own law firm and how long do you have to wait to get 15k a month. I am definitely going to have a huge pay cut plus I do not think I can bring over clients since most of my clients are currently big corporations.

Unregistered 16-09-2020 10:01 PM

Terrible recruiters
 
On the topic of bad recruiters, please avoid the following

Dhvani Doshi from Hays (I called inquiring about a role, she told me she would call me back in 10 minutes..... it's been 3 weeks surprise surprise)

Paulin Tan from ANSA (kept telling me there was a role that I could be a candidate for and never got back to me)

Unregistered 16-09-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145685)
On the topic of bad recruiters, please avoid the following

Dhvani Doshi from Hays (I called inquiring about a role, she told me she would call me back in 10 minutes..... it's been 3 weeks surprise surprise)

Paulin Tan from ANSA (kept telling me there was a role that I could be a candidate for and never got back to me)

Agreed about Dhvani Doshi from Hays - Rude, entitled and impatient. Randomly calls you up for roles then never updates you and ghosts entirely. RUDE.

Emily Tan from Formative Search - This woman will literally harass you lmao. If you turn down a role, she will keep asking you WHY WHY WHY and ask if you can intro any friends who might be interested. Sometimes she even pretends as if she had mandate from the firm/company to act and search for a candidate. Anyhow max.

Sophie de Blauwe from Taylor Root - Will chat you up and get you hyped for a role, then ghost you. I heard her strategy is she lines up several candidates and sends the weaker ones in first to suss out the interviewers/what kind of questions would they ask/etc to prep her stronger ones later.

Melvin Ling from Hudson - I only learnt about this guy because he randomly cold called me on my office phone without even reaching out to me on LinkedIn first. Spoke to him for 5 mins and felt damn tired, clearly doesn't even know what he's doing or what the legal industry is about.

Awaiz Iqbal from Interlink Recruitment - OMG AVOID THIS GUY. Just like Emily, he anyhow pretend he has mandates and will randomly splice together random partner profiles to cobble up a JD for you. He once asked my friend whether she was interested in a role with XYZ department in my firm, which didn't even exist so I asked to see the JD - lo and behold, he just anyhow threw a few partners (from entirely different depts) and claimed they were hiring for that specific dept lol.

Lucy Kennerley from Leap29 - She will be very nice to you if she needs your profile/cv but when you try to ask her about roles she's posted, she'll be damn cold to you and say they not hiring for your profile lol.

Eng Chang from Space Exec - Talk a lot but clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, has a throw **** until it sticks method i.e. he will spam you with roles or talk you up about them when you're clearly unsuitable.

Unregistered 16-09-2020 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 145685)
On the topic of bad recruiters, please avoid the following

Dhvani Doshi from Hays (I called inquiring about a role, she told me she would call me back in 10 minutes..... it's been 3 weeks surprise surprise)

Paulin Tan from ANSA (kept telling me there was a role that I could be a candidate for and never got back to me)

Heard similar ****. Pretend to be eager beaver only.


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