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Originally Posted by emptybottle (Post 28070)

I'm not really thinking abt business or accountancy degrees coz i still see engineering as a specialized degree that provides a relatively more stable job to fall back on. unlike business grads who cnt go into engineering when economy goes south, i always can go back to a stable job in engineering if finance industry doesn't treat me well. 1 thing to add. If i can get a higher paying job in finance industry of course it would be better, but I will be satisfied with a simple life that engineering jobs can provide.

LOL - 3 words - WAIT LONG LONG

Which co will hire a 30 yr old guy with only finance exp as a freshie engineer just because you study engineering in your uni days?

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Originally Posted by emptybottle (Post 28070)

Hi, so I've been doing some reading on this forum, and understand that an engineering job wnt get you as good money as those in finance industry, except for the top few of course. Of course i read all the insightful posts only for reference. Here's my humble opinion. Please do give advice as i am still in army with not much working experience. :)

I'm not really thinking abt business or accountancy degrees coz i still see engineering as a specialized degree that provides a relatively more stable job to fall back on. unlike business grads who cnt go into engineering when economy goes south, i always can go back to a stable job in engineering if finance industry doesn't treat me well. 1 thing to add. If i can get a higher paying job in finance industry of course it would be better, but I will be satisfied with a simple life that engineering jobs can provide.

I'm about to study chem engine next yr, and i must admit i foresee myself as an average grade student at best since majority all are straight A students in JC. 2nd class honours would be good enough for me. therefore i'm thinking whether shld i change to Industrial System Engineering, providing easier access to finance industry, and versatility. No matter which course, I will still source for jobs in finance industry first, oil and gas, then other engineering jobs. but what are the jobs that a chem engineer grads or industrial systems engineering grads get in the finance industry? and how high up can they go if they venture into an industry away from what they have been studying?

Some say engineering grads are highly valued for their problem solving, analytical skills and all, in positions of higher management in any company. (not dreaming big. but long term career goal. where i hope to see myself 20 to 30 yrs down the road.) How true is it?

Your plan is not realistic. Study chemical engineering only if you have interest, otherwise you will end up without honors or 3rd class. Chances of chem engineers joining finance FO is very low, dont waste time.

If money and semi-passion is all you want, get into Econs or business and work doubly hard (still easier than engineering in my opinion). You get a better shot at FO this way. And less brain damage. Better looking fellow students too.

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Originally Posted by emptybottle (Post 28070)

Go accountacy lor...also specialised degree + relevant in finance win win

speaking as someone who has a degree in chem engrg, there are simply not enough jobs for chem engrs. Few of my friends join the chemical industry and very very few in oil and gas. Some join pharmaceutical companies. And quite a number are in semiconductors...

Let me give you an analogy. If you want to build a condo, how many architects would you need? How many construction workers would you need?

For banking and finance, it would be easier for someone with business, accountancy, economics or mathematics to enter. Engineering most probably end up in technology & operations.

If you are worried and want to be versatile, electrical or mechanical would be your best bet but dont expect high salary.

Double E, triple E, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee confirm will let you have rice in bowl. and with rice will survive!

I think you go train in gym for 2years and squeeze yourself a yandao face is easier and faster to earn hamburgers faster than EEEEEeeeeeeeeeee.

Take accountancy ...

Can I know what is the starting pay for fresh degree grad as engineer in DSTA in 2012

No-NS
1st class = ?
2nd upper = ?
2nd lower = ?

With NS
1st class = ?
2nd upper = ?
2nd lower = ?

Please advise!!!!

You will DIE in Chem Engine if you aren't already a good student. I was from Chem Engine and it was really tough. Even 2nd upper is hard to get, remember that all the students there are straight As.

Without 2nd upper, you won't get into any good engineering jobs (private or public sector)

NTU chem engine IS easier. :)
I was not from a top JC (bottom few in fact) but still managed to get 2nd upper.

That being said, my advice is study biz/acct. Very few of my friends actually got into oil & gas or chemical industries. Even 1st class doesn't mean a guarantee, just a higher chance for interview.