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uturn 07-08-2011 12:26 AM

Working Culture in IRAS
 
How is it like working in IRAS.

Is it all number crunching? sounds boring?

do they write papers? Does senior officers need to take minutes of meeting?

undiscern 07-08-2011 02:20 PM

Yes to all your questions. Also, it is a scholar grooming place. you will see peers whom enter the same time as you becoming your boss in a few years time. you will not only take minutes, but also arrange the tables, preparing files, make sure the food cater suits the taste of the board when they meet, etc etc.

Unregistered 07-08-2011 03:53 PM

That is life in stat boards or the civil service. But you can take it positively, because you are exposed to upper management at those meetings.

uturn 07-08-2011 06:16 PM

thanks all for your reply. :)

How abt remuneration? I heard its very gd.

datou 16-07-2012 05:35 PM

hi all digging up an old thread..

anyone working in IRAS can tell me why some posts require both degree grads and diploma grads but the jobscope is the same? Do degree grads have to go frontline and do customer service too?

Thanks for any reply!

lmaohaha 16-07-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by datou (Post 26668)
hi all digging up an old thread..

anyone working in IRAS can tell me why some posts require both degree grads and diploma grads but the jobscope is the same? Do degree grads have to go frontline and do customer service too?

Thanks for any reply!

frontline is 5.5day work week if im not wrong. u sure u want to do that?

datou 16-07-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lmaohaha (Post 26673)
frontline is 5.5day work week if im not wrong. u sure u want to do that?

lol honestly no :p

but i have no idea why some posts have the same jobscopes but open to both degree holders and diploma holders at the same time..so i was thinking if it is similar to other stat boards where diploma holders man frontline duties while degree holders don't do frontline and do more of back office planning or other stuff..

Unregistered 16-07-2012 10:46 PM

how much does a director in IRAS earn including bonus? got S$150K a year?

Unregistered 23-07-2012 06:31 PM

A lot more than that because all of us have to pay taxes. They reaped the flushing cash from there!

Acemaong 06-07-2013 07:03 PM

Sry for digging up an old thread.
Anyone got any more comments?

icy water 22-07-2013 10:28 PM

which position are you applying for? i might be able to let you in on some info depending on dept/position but generally there is:

frontline- face to face/phone

different tax depts like gst, corp, individual, property etc- assessment/email/processing

accounting- payment/refund

ruling

enforcement

and of course the usual
IT
finance & admin
HR

Unregistered 23-07-2013 10:59 PM

Hi Icy_water - maybe you can comment on the working hours? Are there frequent OT?

Unregistered 25-07-2013 12:35 AM

Isit hard to get in? Normally whats the criteria like?

Swirlyyy 11-07-2014 08:54 AM

Is this still alive? Just want to know, I left IRAS within a year due to family commitments. Will I be given a 2nd chance if I reapply back? My work performance was good while I was there and both my manager and AM tried to persuade me to stay and be a temp part time staff but I had to leave back then.

Unregistered 11-07-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Swirlyyy (Post 53225)
Is this still alive? Just want to know, I left IRAS within a year due to family commitments. Will I be given a 2nd chance if I reapply back? My work performance was good while I was there and both my manager and AM tried to persuade me to stay and be a temp part time staff but I had to leave back then.

Do you still have your manager or AM's contact no? Maybe you can get them to help you get in by referral?

Swirlyyy 16-07-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 53242)
Do you still have your manager or AM's contact no? Maybe you can get them to help you get in by referral?

That's something I didn't think of. Thanks.
Do you think through friends referral would be fine as well? I am still in touch with some of my colleagues there. I don't wish to trouble my M and AM.

Unregistered 10-08-2014 11:01 AM

Get i get your referral for me to have a chance to enter? PLEASE.... appreciate if u would email me at s10074482 @ gmail THANKS.

Bunpire402 13-11-2014 03:37 PM

Need advice on IRAS
 
Is this post still active as need some advice?

I will be working as a temp in IRAS this Dec under helpline after being jobless for some time. Firstly, how's the culture over there? Understand that for my role, casual dressing is fine as long as no slippers and shorts.

Secondly, will they be able to offer me a position from temp to perm if I perform well as I applied for a perm position with them via Careers@Gov but till now status still reflected as submitted. I sincerely am interested in working in a Civil Service or Stats Board environment.

Lastly, I heard that CS or SB prefer local grads or those top uni grads to fill in their positions?? My MBA and BBA are Aussie uni which I took part-time thru private education. Was told by their HR that for my temp job they categorise me under diploma holder.

Unregistered 27-05-2015 01:23 PM

anyone working in IRAS, how is the working life there? Can u share the pay too?

Unregistered 29-05-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67236)
anyone working in IRAS, how is the working life there? Can u share the pay too?

yeah anyone what is the pay structure in IRAS too? I applying to be a tax officer.

Unregistered 31-05-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunpire402 (Post 58747)
Is this post still active as need some advice?

I will be working as a temp in IRAS this Dec under helpline after being jobless for some time. Firstly, how's the culture over there? Understand that for my role, casual dressing is fine as long as no slippers and shorts.

Secondly, will they be able to offer me a position from temp to perm if I perform well as I applied for a perm position with them via Careers@Gov but till now status still reflected as submitted. I sincerely am interested in working in a Civil Service or Stats Board environment.

Lastly, I heard that CS or SB prefer local grads or those top uni grads to fill in their positions?? My MBA and BBA are Aussie uni which I took part-time thru private education. Was told by their HR that for my temp job they categorise me under diploma holder.

you have a MBA and working temp? a role which allows casual dressing as long as not shorts and slippers...oh man help people take queue number?

Unregistered 31-05-2015 01:39 PM

Sometimes people do not believe it but IRAS do accept degree holders for frontline roles such as handling phone calls or face to face counters. Whether front/backend, a tax officer do need to know how taxes are computed. Of course, backend officers need to have better knowledge.

E.g1. For income tax: They need to have knowledge of complex computations relating to tax borne by employers, double taxation agreements with other countries and various schemes such as the SRS or Not Ordinarily Resident schemes.

E.g2. For GST: Under the process of GST registration and filing etc. Sounds simple but just look at how thick the GST Act is...

Pay structure wise:

For this year, the salary should be around $3.5k for 2nd upp hon (without NS) regardless of whether you are doing frontline or backend. Might be more because they have just announced a 4% salary adjustment wef July 2015.

So for each class of hon., you can just add or subtract $200.
If you had served NS, add an additional $200.
It shouldnt be too far off. Just don't expect fast progression if you are a non-scholar.

I do know of even 3rd class hons grads joining so those considering need not feel like its only for 1st and 2nd upp class hons. Give it a try if you would like to serve the public.

Cheers.

Unregistered 31-05-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67428)
you have a MBA and working temp? a role which allows casual dressing as long as not shorts and slippers...oh man help people take queue number?

Why you like that? Why need to show this kind of attitude?

Unregistered 04-06-2015 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67447)
Sometimes people do not believe it but IRAS do accept degree holders for frontline roles such as handling phone calls or face to face counters. Whether front/backend, a tax officer do need to know how taxes are computed. Of course, backend officers need to have better knowledge.

E.g1. For income tax: They need to have knowledge of complex computations relating to tax borne by employers, double taxation agreements with other countries and various schemes such as the SRS or Not Ordinarily Resident schemes.

E.g2. For GST: Under the process of GST registration and filing etc. Sounds simple but just look at how thick the GST Act is...

Pay structure wise:

For this year, the salary should be around $3.5k for 2nd upp hon (without NS) regardless of whether you are doing frontline or backend. Might be more because they have just announced a 4% salary adjustment wef July 2015.

So for each class of hon., you can just add or subtract $200.
If you had served NS, add an additional $200.
It shouldnt be too far off. Just don't expect fast progression if you are a non-scholar.

I do know of even 3rd class hons grads joining so those considering need not feel like its only for 1st and 2nd upp class hons. Give it a try if you would like to serve the public.

Cheers.

Wow! Are u working inside? Cause your info is very up to date . I am inside also and I doubt outsiders would know about the 4% increment.

I am a 3rd class hons grad. Like you said, don't expect fast progression hahaha .

Unregistered 05-06-2015 02:16 PM

And that is why people on the IRAS hotline can't give correct answers, cos they hire grads with 3rd class to man the phones. Together with no accountability as everything is "over the phone", the IRAS hotline is often a lottery to see if you get someone who knows their stuff or another joker trying to smoke their way thru their job.

Unregistered 05-06-2015 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67688)
And that is why people on the IRAS hotline can't give correct answers, cos they hire grads with 3rd class to man the phones. Together with no accountability as everything is "over the phone", the IRAS hotline is often a lottery to see if you get someone who knows their stuff or another joker trying to smoke their way thru their job.

This is insulting. You don't need to be a grad to answer the phone. The IRAS hotline is manned by call centre staff just like most companies. Please me some companies that hire only 2nd lower and above grads just to man helplines.

More often than not the people manning the helplines are diploma grads since nobody wants to study for a degree just to man helplines. The turnover is high too. No offense to any poly grads.

Unregistered 05-06-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67691)
This is insulting. You don't need to be a grad to answer the phone. The IRAS hotline is manned by call centre staff just like most companies. Please me some companies that hire only 2nd lower and above grads just to man helplines.

More often than not the people manning the helplines are diploma grads since nobody wants to study for a degree just to man helplines. The turnover is high too. No offense to any poly grads.

Anybody in the industry worth their salt will know IRAS hotline is often useless as the person on the other side is often clueless/wrong when it comes to complex queries.

Unregistered 05-06-2015 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67693)
Anybody in the industry worth their salt will know IRAS hotline is often useless as the person on the other side is often clueless/wrong when it comes to complex queries.

Anybody in the industry worth their salt would have contacts with the officers in the department directly who are the ones actually performing the operation/technical work.

The helpline is just a general helpline for generic stuff.

Considering your experience, quite obvious what your status is.

Unregistered 05-06-2015 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67696)
Anybody in the industry worth their salt would have contacts with the officers in the department directly who are the ones actually performing the operation/technical work.

The helpline is just a general helpline for generic stuff.

Considering your experience, quite obvious what your status is.

Of course, forgot you're the top manager who is still calling in to IRAS to get your work done instead of reviewing work done by your subordinates.

Unregistered 06-06-2015 12:10 AM

So much mud slinging, so many bruised egos.

Unregistered 17-01-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 67688)
And that is why people on the IRAS hotline can't give correct answers, cos they hire grads with 3rd class to man the phones. Together with no accountability as everything is "over the phone", the IRAS hotline is often a lottery to see if you get someone who knows their stuff or another joker trying to smoke their way thru their job.

Who do you think you are to slight 3rd class graduates? 3rd class graduates have graduation offers from numerous companies even before graduation too, they possess numerous skills sets and life experiences which are definitely essential for their future career and lifetime that first class honours nerds do not possess. Humans, for your information are not purely defined by academic results, what immature and superficial mindset you have there. My parents have never been to university but are still successful entrepreneurs and am living in the lap of luxury. Please be mindful when you speak in future for your seemingly harmless words may be offensive to some.

Gabriel Tay 03-02-2016 08:14 PM

Senior Corporate Planning Officer (Research and Statistics)
 
Anyone can give insights to this role:
Senior Corporate Planning Officer (Research and Statistics)?

Donald 03-02-2016 08:16 PM

Remuneration package
 
Hi all,

Anyone can advise how much a 2nd upper (with NS) local uni grad can get for his starting pay in IRAS?

Also, how the work culture in IRAS?

firebox 04-02-2016 09:27 PM

IRAS pay package
 
Dear all,

I wish to know the IRAS pay package for fresh graduates!

Unregistered 06-02-2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firebox (Post 79334)
Dear all,

I wish to know the IRAS pay package for fresh graduates!

Second upper fresh grad - about 3800

Can expect promotion within 2 years which can get you to 4600

Unregistered 06-02-2016 11:02 PM

I am a second lower from NUS and have been working in the legal industry for 2 years (non tax related). How much would I realistically be offered? TIA!

Unregistered 07-02-2016 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 79464)
I am a second lower from NUS and have been working in the legal industry for 2 years (non tax related). How much would I realistically be offered? TIA!

Second lower 200 less than second upper, which is 200 less than first class. But since u have some experience, u should be getting 3800 to 3900

Unregistered 20-03-2016 06:35 PM

Senior Tax Officer
 
Hi, I am interested in applying for a senior tax officer post at the IRAS. Currently im still working at a big 4 firm with close to 2 years of experience in corporate tax.

Would like to check how much pay would i be offered and how would the career progression be like at the IRAS for non-scholars.

Thanks in advance!!

Unregistered 31-03-2016 10:53 PM

How much can a second lower (no ns) get???

Unregistered 08-01-2018 12:16 AM

Senior Tax Officer
 
Lets re open this thread!

Considering to apply for a senior tax officer role.. which department has better record of progression, coporate tax or enforcement or others?

How much would an ACCA grad with about 5 yrs tax experience (non-big 4)be able to command at IRAS?


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