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rachaeltan 07-03-2022 01:03 PM

is this tech job normal?
 
hi,

im currently a junior dev at a large tech company. pay sucks ( 4.2k ), no stocks, remote job.

previously i interned here back when i was in NTU comp science ( grad 2021 ) and the work was fun, i got to learn a lot of things and go to the office to meet teammates.

when they offered me a full-time conversion, i enjoyed my work so i took it... but when i came back as a fulltime, i found out im in a different team and cannot change... im isolated from this team, whatever task they doing im not involved. i dont know why... i asked to be involved and they just tell me to wait for new tasks but it never comes.

i work here for almost 6 months already and still no work to do. is this normal? i know im new so need onboard all those but for 6 months ?

should i just leave and find a new job? anyone else faced this issue?

Unregistered 07-03-2022 01:14 PM

What do you think

Unregistered 07-03-2022 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rachaeltan (Post 206663)
hi,

im currently a junior dev at a large tech company. pay sucks ( 4.2k ), no stocks, remote job.

previously i interned here back when i was in NTU comp science ( grad 2021 ) and the work was fun, i got to learn a lot of things and go to the office to meet teammates.

when they offered me a full-time conversion, i enjoyed my work so i took it... but when i came back as a fulltime, i found out im in a different team and cannot change... im isolated from this team, whatever task they doing im not involved. i dont know why... i asked to be involved and they just tell me to wait for new tasks but it never comes.

i work here for almost 6 months already and still no work to do. is this normal? i know im new so need onboard all those but for 6 months ?

should i just leave and find a new job? anyone else faced this issue?

Talk to your direct manager, otherwise quit. Don’t waste another 6 months.

Unregistered 07-03-2022 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rachaeltan (Post 206663)
hi,

im currently a junior dev at a large tech company. pay sucks ( 4.2k ), no stocks, remote job.

previously i interned here back when i was in NTU comp science ( grad 2021 ) and the work was fun, i got to learn a lot of things and go to the office to meet teammates.

when they offered me a full-time conversion, i enjoyed my work so i took it... but when i came back as a fulltime, i found out im in a different team and cannot change... im isolated from this team, whatever task they doing im not involved. i dont know why... i asked to be involved and they just tell me to wait for new tasks but it never comes.

i work here for almost 6 months already and still no work to do. is this normal? i know im new so need onboard all those but for 6 months ?

should i just leave and find a new job? anyone else faced this issue?

Completely normal for newbie....
its call working university,w e have those IMDA CLT 1 yr contract fresh grad do nothing for the whole year. They were not involved in any production work, only attend training and doing "Testing" work.

Unregistered 07-03-2022 02:21 PM

Completely normal for newbie....
its call working university,w e have those IMDA CLT 1 yr contract fresh grad do nothing for the whole year. They were not involved in any production work, only attend training and doing "Testing" work.

Unregistered 07-03-2022 02:23 PM

not normal, you should be up and running in 3 mths

Unregistered 07-03-2022 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206680)
not normal, you should be up and running in 3 mths

not for fresh grad, that is mid career job change

Unregistered 07-03-2022 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206681)
not for fresh grad, that is mid career job change

if you are not being exposed to meaningful work in 3 mths , you will not be any different in 6-9mths

rachaeltan 07-03-2022 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206679)
Completely normal for newbie....
its call working university,w e have those IMDA CLT 1 yr contract fresh grad do nothing for the whole year. They were not involved in any production work, only attend training and doing "Testing" work.

what do you mean?

my role is a full-time junior position btw, it's not a contract or a program ..

rachaeltan 07-03-2022 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206665)
Talk to your direct manager, otherwise quit. Don’t waste another 6 months.

yea i tried talking to my manager but she say "take it slow, you are still new, i want u slowly onboard"

but its been 6 months... i already know most of the code base and stuffs. i told her that also and she just tell me wait.. lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206680)
not normal, you should be up and running in 3 mths

agreed , most of my friends all started working with team after 1-2 weeks or 1-2 months

Unregistered 07-03-2022 04:24 PM

Do you think you're some god programmer? you think junior devs can straight away start working? LOL junior devs are idiots, all so trash. Need to be constantly babysat by seniors.

Everytime I see some junior moron in my team, I ignore him and make sure my team ignores him or her also. Don't like it? Leave. Go join business.

Unregistered 07-03-2022 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206695)
Do you think you're some god programmer? you think junior devs can straight away start working? LOL junior devs are idiots, all so trash. Need to be constantly babysat by seniors.

Everytime I see some junior moron in my team, I ignore him and make sure my team ignores him or her also. Don't like it? Leave. Go join business.

Eew, didn't know tech culture is so small-minded and disgusting. So much for tech being "advanced". What irony.

Glad I had much better and proper training from a healthy team in a non-tech job when I started!

Unregistered 07-03-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206702)
Eew, didn't know tech culture is so small-minded and disgusting. So much for tech being "advanced". What irony.

Glad I had much better and proper training from a healthy team in a non-tech job when I started!

what thing tech culture

simi lj ? u ok ?

if i tell u i work in law firm and i call u a retard and i will sue u for fun, does that mean all lawyers are rude toxic pricks?

your logic is insane lol , seek help .

Unregistered 08-03-2022 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rachaeltan (Post 206663)
hi,

im currently a junior dev at a large tech company. pay sucks ( 4.2k ), no stocks, remote job.

previously i interned here back when i was in NTU comp science ( grad 2021 ) and the work was fun, i got to learn a lot of things and go to the office to meet teammates.

when they offered me a full-time conversion, i enjoyed my work so i took it... but when i came back as a fulltime, i found out im in a different team and cannot change... im isolated from this team, whatever task they doing im not involved. i dont know why... i asked to be involved and they just tell me to wait for new tasks but it never comes.

i work here for almost 6 months already and still no work to do. is this normal? i know im new so need onboard all those but for 6 months ?

should i just leave and find a new job? anyone else faced this issue?

I wished I had this kind of slow pace on-boarding. For my new job, I had to resolve like multiple outstanding issues of a few systems that were pending for anything between 3-6months. On top of that, have to oversee 2 new projects. All this happen while I need to understand business processes and the systems and it doesn’t help when there are no documentations about the systems. Plus the vendor is only 6months new.

Like wth….

Unregistered 08-03-2022 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206730)
what thing tech culture

simi lj ? u ok ?

if i tell u i work in law firm and i call u a retard and i will sue u for fun, does that mean all lawyers are rude toxic pricks?

your logic is insane lol , seek help .

must be another note fare scam poster

Unregistered 08-03-2022 10:26 AM

Smh so many noob devs here crying.

Face it. 7k fresh grad pay is for talents, not for noobs who join garbage companies and try to run lol face your job like a real person and deal with it.

Unregistered 08-03-2022 10:44 AM

No need to be harsh on someone not so qualified. It alrdy says sth abt your company if u take in someone who is not qualified for the position. No need to be mean, just feedback and don’t pass him or her on probation

And tech grads…pls be well aware that the salary range of new grads are because of industry demands, there is demand for TOP TECH TALENT not demand for tech talents in general

Anyways even a small shop tech role has median to above median pay for a fresh grad. Not complaining and upgrade yourself is the way to go

Unregistered 08-03-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206819)
No need to be harsh on someone not so qualified. It alrdy says sth abt your company if u take in someone who is not qualified for the position. No need to be mean, just feedback and don’t pass him or her on probation

And tech grads…pls be well aware that the salary range of new grads are because of industry demands, there is demand for TOP TECH TALENT not demand for tech talents in general

Anyways even a small shop tech role has median to above median pay for a fresh grad. Not complaining and upgrade yourself is the way to go

What the fk are you even on about?

Tech talent and top tech talent both mean the same thing. Talent by definition already means someone better than the rest.

TS IS clearly qualified... why else would they hire her back after her internship? you think everyone gets return offers after they finish their tech internships? LMAO no. Companies rather hire desperate 1-2 YOE engineers looking to do entry-roles than hire fresh-grads with 0 YOE and a few internships that most of the time don't translate to real-working skills. ( because internships are 99% of the time useless garbage where you do side projects )

TS is just super unlucky. She was in a different team during internship, form bonds, teamwork, all those then suddenly join a whole different team with 0 experience. Can name this company?

name and shame. Avoid trash companies.

Unregistered 08-03-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206816)
Smh so many noob devs here crying.

Face it. 7k fresh grad pay is for talents, not for noobs who join garbage companies and try to run lol face your job like a real person and deal with it.

7k rofl

You wish. Reach leetcode top 5% rank and contribute to at least 3 open-source projects with >5 accepted commits then come talk about "talent".

rachaeltan 09-03-2022 05:34 PM

all i asked for was some advice and instead i get a bunch of elitist babies crying... -___-

im also top 10% on leetcode, so what? top 5%, top 1%, leetcode doesnt mean you're a good programmer... anyone can reach it with enough practice..

real work isnt leetcode.

Unregistered 09-03-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rachaeltan (Post 207053)
all i asked for was some advice and instead i get a bunch of elitist babies crying... -___-

im also top 10% on leetcode, so what? top 5%, top 1%, leetcode doesnt mean you're a good programmer... anyone can reach it with enough practice..

real work isnt leetcode.

yes indeed. elite ppl are secure ppl, not insecure bozos

Broot 09-03-2022 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rachaeltan (Post 207053)
all i asked for was some advice and instead i get a bunch of elitist babies crying... -___-

im also top 10% on leetcode, so what? top 5%, top 1%, leetcode doesnt mean you're a good programmer... anyone can reach it with enough practice..

real work isnt leetcode.

Ignore those dumbAsses. A senior here. From what u described it’s quite normal if you are in a MNC. I’d say take initiative and join in other things like code reviews and such. U don’t need to be writing new features all the time.

And screw leetcode. Ur ranks on there don.t do **** to business

Unregistered 24-05-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 206828)
7k rofl

You wish. Reach leetcode top 5% rank and contribute to at least 3 open-source projects with >5 accepted commits then come talk about "talent".

I'm a fresh grad with an offer over 7k. It's not about your Leetcode rank, it only shows how many questions you've done. Have you joined live competitive programming contests? Did you get top 5% on those competitions as well? Or just your stupid top 5% rank on Leetcode?

Unregistered 24-05-2022 07:45 PM

Also, same poster. I don't think your open source projects mean anything. An internship from a decent company like FAANG is far more valuable than your open source project contributions.

Unregistered 24-05-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 218959)
I'm a fresh grad with an offer over 7k. It's not about your Leetcode rank, it only shows how many questions you've done. Have you joined live competitive programming contests? Did you get top 5% on those competitions as well? Or just your stupid top 5% rank on Leetcode?

brother fyi ah, when people say leetcode top 5% ranking they referring to the "global rank" bro not the profile rank lol two different things ah

s://leetcode.com/neal_wu/

this guy #1 in global rank cause he #1 in every live weekly contest... but his profile rank 150k cause he never do all questions on the platform

just sayin la u wan flex ur 7k fresh grad at least use ur brain abit and say correct things, u bump old thread just to talk cock and flame people, wa lan, i read also sian

rajesh04 26-05-2022 09:18 AM

Leetcode is a good place to practise, nothing else. My manager checked if I know how to use a debugger and if I had any open source projects he could see.

Unregistered 26-05-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rajesh04 (Post 219166)
Leetcode is a good place to practise, nothing else. My manager checked if I know how to use a debugger and if I had any open source projects he could see.

You must be in a low tier company then.

Unregistered 27-05-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219182)
You must be in a low tier company then.

Are you sure you worked in software development before? No company at faang will judge you based on your leet code score since it's opened book, they have their 4 stage interview test for judging junior software developers. Your parents should teach you basic manners

Unregistered 27-05-2022 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219337)
Are you sure you worked in software development before? No company at faang will judge you based on your leet code score since it's opened book, they have their 4 stage interview test for judging junior software developers. Your parents should teach you basic manners

Wtf are you even talking about lol Software Dev companies are not just limited to FAANG right? Maybe learn how to actually speak English.

Unregistered 27-05-2022 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219339)
Wtf are you even talking about lol Software Dev companies are not just limited to FAANG right? Maybe learn how to actually speak English.

not the guy u replying to, but non FAANG companies are almost exclusively low tier lolol (excluding the likes of shopee,grab,bytedance,linkedin,indeed etc. they are arguably in FAANG realm alr)

Unregistered 27-05-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219340)
not the guy u replying to, but non FAANG companies are almost exclusively low tier lolol (excluding the likes of shopee,grab,bytedance,linkedin,indeed etc. they are arguably in FAANG realm alr)

But they are not FAANG right?

Like wtf are you on about lmfao by your stupid logic, every rich Chinese tech company is FAANG. that's not what the FAANG acronym means you dipshit.

You're definitely the same guy. Both equally dumb.

Unregistered 27-05-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219351)
But they are not FAANG right?

Like wtf are you on about lmfao by your stupid logic, every rich Chinese tech company is FAANG. that's not what the FAANG acronym means you dipshit.

You're definitely the same guy. Both equally dumb.

LOL use ur head la idiot u think FAANG is LITERALLY only 5 companies ah?
U tell me how tf isnt microsoft in FAANG? FAANG is just shorthand for big tech dumbass

Unregistered 27-05-2022 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219378)
LOL use ur head la idiot u think FAANG is LITERALLY only 5 companies ah?
U tell me how tf isnt microsoft in FAANG? FAANG is just shorthand for big tech dumbass

Microsoft isn't part of "FAANG" you dipshit.

What does FAANG mean?

In finance, “FAANG” is an acronym that refers to the stocks of five prominent American technology companies: Meta (FB) (formerly known as Facebook), Amazon (AMZN), Apple (AAPL), Netflix (NFLX); and Alphabet (GOOG) (formerly known as Google).



Do us all a favor, stop posting, thanks.

Unregistered 27-05-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219382)
Microsoft isn't part of "FAANG" you dipshit.

What does FAANG mean?

In finance, “FAANG” is an acronym that refers to the stocks of five prominent American technology companies: Meta (FB) (formerly known as Facebook), Amazon (AMZN), Apple (AAPL), Netflix (NFLX); and Alphabet (GOOG) (formerly known as Google).



Do us all a favor, stop posting, thanks.

LOL yet another fking idiot who doesnt know what they talking abt. Ofc anyone knows the five companies in FAANG coined by jim cramer. But are u saying that because Microsoft isnt in FAANG it does not belong in big tech? Other than this simple abbreviation, by any other metric Microsoft and the like are 100% in big tech space. Putting them on par with the rest of FAANG. Thats why these days FAANG is simply shorthand for big tech. Which companies deserve to call themselves big tech is up for debate.

Unregistered 27-05-2022 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219378)
LOL use ur head la idiot u think FAANG is LITERALLY only 5 companies ah?
U tell me how tf isnt microsoft in FAANG? FAANG is just shorthand for big tech dumbass

wa lan simi lj? i tot faang is

Facebook / Meta
Apple
Amazon
NetFlix
Google

what thing why microsoft not in faang? how the fk we know da fuq? sibei mahai, keep wasting ur time spreading misinfo la dog

Unregistered 27-05-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219413)
wa lan simi lj? i tot faang is

Facebook / Meta
Apple
Amazon
NetFlix
Google

what thing why microsoft not in faang? how the fk we know da fuq? sibei mahai, keep wasting ur time spreading misinfo la dog

thats why u not in faang bodoh

Unregistered 27-05-2022 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219382)
Microsoft isn't part of "FAANG" you dipshit.

What does FAANG mean?

In finance, “FAANG” is an acronym that refers to the stocks of five prominent American technology companies: Meta (FB) (formerly known as Facebook), Amazon (AMZN), Apple (AAPL), Netflix (NFLX); and Alphabet (GOOG) (formerly known as Google).



Do us all a favor, stop posting, thanks.

LOLOL rekt

Unregistered 27-05-2022 08:52 PM

You guys are all retarded.

Unregistered 27-05-2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219413)
wa lan simi lj? i tot faang is

Facebook / Meta
Apple
Amazon
NetFlix
Google

what thing why microsoft not in faang? how the fk we know da fuq? sibei mahai, keep wasting ur time spreading misinfo la dog

Can change to

Meta
Apple
NetFlix
Google
Amazon

rajesh04 28-05-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 219413)
wa lan simi lj? i tot faang is

Facebook / Meta
Apple
Amazon
NetFlix
Google

what thing why microsoft not in faang? how the fk we know da fuq? sibei mahai, keep wasting ur time spreading misinfo la dog

Still can't get used to Singaporean's English. Faang is representative of big technology companies and almost everyone in India or those who read enough newspapers know that.


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