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Old 08-04-2017, 10:25 PM
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Theory and real life can be and usually are a world apart.

Theory says if your NW is $5m and you invest it for 5% return, you will get $250k a year to live on happily.

Real life: NW is $5m

Primary home : $1.5M (may appreciate in value over time but not giving cash flow yearly)
CPF : as eg. MA = $104k (couple), SA = $350k (couple), OA = $500k (couple)
Assuming below 55 yo, total held up in CPF = ~ $1m

Emergency cash :$100k
Stocks : $1.4m (spread over various stocks from high risk-high return and low risk-low returns)
Average ROI from stocks ~ 5% or $70k dividends pa.

Investment property at $1m
Rental income : $30k pa nett.

Total cash flow per year = $100k

If the above sounds realistic, it is because it is.

We are above 55 and upon reaching 55, our yearly CPF interests are available for withdrawal.

In our case, our NW is well above $6M and our passive income is only $150k pa for use (including CPF interest). If you really want $250k passive income, before you reach 55, the $5m should be investible net worth (not including your home and not including money in your CPF). In short, you need a total NW of no less than $6.5M to $7M!

Now you know why we are not retiring yet.


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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Thanks, $5 million is a number that I have heard from other retirees too. I suppose if one can earn 5% investment return, then $250k per annum will be a comfortable amount to live a "upper middle class life style" as you mentioned. Unfortunately, my investment return averaged 3% to 4% for the past decade and so I will need a larger capital amount to generate the $250k a year passive income stream. You were smart enough to invest in multiple investment properties early on while I have been patiently waiting for property prices to come down since 2010 and holding on to too much cash, which dragged down the return of my portfolio.

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