Not that I disagree or what, but some of the discussion on DXO is sort of "abuden!?" Do you guys really think any person with capability will join MINDEF as a HR or support department DXO? You will be lucky to even get even an average calibre to sign up for the job. Most are just there to go through motion rot till retirement in a 100% safe place like MINDEF. Everyone who go through NS or reservist knows that.