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Originally Posted by Unregistered
The "Caveat emptor" was that for HR jobs in NMCs, they are usually looking for specialised ones, especially for those that require HR experience. Therefore if you are unable to have the required experience in the specialised HR functions, yes it will be difficult for you to enter. Usually its a round-table of people from the same group of companies that rotate about.
If you're talking about SMEs or those smaller companies, yes you are right;there are HR generalist roles. Even then, you are expected to know the full spectrum of HR, even if not specialising in any specific functions. Then again the issue is, if you are already in the public sector doing HR, would you want to go into these companies to do HR? The chances of them offering you a similar or better salary package is low, especially for a generalist role.
If you read the original post, that person is unable to make it into the MA of the MNCs. What makes you think he/she maybe able to enter the MA programme for the public sector? So if you're not a MA, chances are you will not be rotated to enjoy the full spectrum of HR functions. Not unless you make a deliberate effort to quit and join other agencies to work on a new HR function, or request to rotate within the various HR functions in your agency.
Are you saying that if I am a HR generalist in a public agency of 500 people dealing with budgets and fiscal policies, I can apply to be a HR generalist in an Oil and Gas company that has more than 5000 employees? Now under such circumstances, would my experience in the public be useful for my application to this private company? Afterall, people who want to move on usually want to move to a higher (greener) pasture. There is no point in saying I can move onto a smaller company doing similar things. No career development as well.
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Hold your horses please. I merely said that MA programmes at MNCs are ridiculously difficult to get into and nothing about not being able to make it. Well, that said I didn't bother applying because I am well aware that the competition is very stiff and I stand little or no chance given that i'm no overachiever/FCH smarty pants. But contrary to your (warped) reasoning, the unimaginable happened - I applied for 3 MA programmes in the public sector and have been shortlisted. Don't be such a wet blanket.
Given that 2nd upper grads are usually offered $3000-$3500, it's unlikely (though not impossible) that one would be drawing more than $4000 after serving in the public sector for 2 years, no? I've, however, seen plenty of MNCs offering $4000 and above for at least 2 of experience so it seems that the salary for a HR Generalist/Executive in the private sector isn't all that bad.
As for your last point, an increase in headcount does not negate one's experience as a HR generalist. I wouldn't be so quick to write if off as irrelevant. When people switch jobs, it's because they think they have gained sufficient knowledge and expertise to take on additional responsibilities, justifying a pay increment. Hence, isn't it a normal occurrence for them to apply for a job that's more demanding?!? From the way you phrase it, one's experience and skill sets would perhaps only be relevant if the individual goes from a headcount of 500 in the public sector to 500 in the private sector.