M3 M4 those roles no need skills one la.
Those position are just roles that is high paid to play politics.
Talk big in front of customer. Don't offend in internal meeting.
Play politics to not offend the senior management.
Then promoted lo.
I seen it so many times. People with strong engineering background etc. Can't stay long in those position.
I heard rumoir there was a PhD consultant in transport...
Then promoted to VP.

But after some politics restructuring was forced to go.. Something about he can't have role outside of the company. Conflict of interest.
So he was just VP for 2 months..

Alot of mine fields to navigate.
Say too much. Offend people.
Say too little. People think you nothing to contribute.
This is why when the company have too many managers.. It's just politics.
If this company is heavy on engineers and low on managers. And the engineers are the higher paid one.

You'll have all the zai engineers leading. Speak and contribute technically.
Then those non tech nothing to contribute just listen and then front customer..
That's the way its supposed to be...
Managers are supposed to manage customer.

But here managers don't really manage client.
Managers rather just manage their engineer.
But they themselves no idea how to do the work.
So just meeting meeting check progress so they can report up to senior management.
Take credit for update..

It's very stupid I can't believe I have worked in a place where practically almost everyone is a "manager" except if you are admin.