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06-06-2017 12:12 PM
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hi, lately feel really discouraged by salary figures for arts/social science graduates.. i know I shoudnt expect much as compared to a professional or technical degree, but any social science or arts graduates out there making a good amount could give me some hope? it's all negative out here. am considering forgoing my passion to switch to business or something cause of financial concerns :/ I know I sound really materialistic sigh, actually scored straight As for my A levels and now I kinda regret not choosing something more practical. Any advise?

some background:
looking at majoring in pol sci/sociology
aiming for second upper/first class hons
I'm a pol sci graduate with second class honours. 16 years of work experience, doing something completely unrelated to my degree. My annual salary is around S$140K all in. Is that good? You decide.
23-05-2017 11:17 PM
Unregistered University is a tough place. I transferred from Engineering to FASS because I could not cope with the sheer technicality of the modules. I was required to juggle programming during my first semester, together with a bunch of physics modules. I had no physics background having chosen to do Biology during A Levels. I guess that was my only regret in my entire course of education. I struggled even though I was pulling all nighters, but still, I could not catch up with my other peers. Then, I finally did some thinking and decided that the only way to salvage the situation was to transfer to a course that I was able to do well at. I did just that and I transferred to FASS. While I did not do extremely well, I was at least able to get decent grades with the right amount of effort.

So my point to all this is that you need to find the right fit. It is important to balance pragmatism and passion, but there are times when you need some interest in order to provide you with motivation to sustain the hardwork, which is required for you to get the good grades that you need. My take on this is that if you do really well, there will be jobs available, regardless of which major you are in. Do not just decide solely on pragmatism or you could risk struggling like me until I finally transferred. You would not want waste a few years of your life pursuing something you are not good at, simply because the market demands it, only to find that you cannot even pass to graduate.
22-05-2017 10:51 PM
Unregistered In FASS, the only majors with strong earning power are typically Economics, Psychology, Communications (which typically fall under Social Sciences rather than the Arts). So it is not surprising that an Economics would do well. But these majors are very competitive and difficult to get into. For good reason of course.

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Just want to share that your education is merely a stepping stone, what's important is how much knowledge you have in the fields that you really want to get into. I graduated from FASS (NUS) with just a pass in Economics. Throughout the years, i've picked up investment related knowledge and i'm currently in the M&A field that i've always wanted to be in.

I got into the M&A field without networking or anything, just pure hard work by learning how to do the business case, financial modelling and used public listed companies as my submission along with my resume.

Please don't give up and dash your own hopes because of stories regarding what others couldn't achieve.
22-05-2017 09:05 AM
Unregistered Its a fact arts degree generally earn lesser relative to their peers.

Deal it with and learn to make up for it by taking jobs, internship, part-time even during the semester. Employers do look out for willingness to learn, hunger for progress.
12-05-2017 10:52 AM
Unregistered Just want to share that your education is merely a stepping stone, what's important is how much knowledge you have in the fields that you really want to get into. I graduated from FASS (NUS) with just a pass in Economics. Throughout the years, i've picked up investment related knowledge and i'm currently in the M&A field that i've always wanted to be in.

I got into the M&A field without networking or anything, just pure hard work by learning how to do the business case, financial modelling and used public listed companies as my submission along with my resume.

Please don't give up and dash your own hopes because of stories regarding what others couldn't achieve.
11-05-2017 10:56 AM
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All this talk about future career & pay increase is quite silly when the dude hasn't even started university schooling. Take a look around you, how many people after 10 years are working in a job based on what they study? Only a small minority.
And have you wondered how many of those who are not doing what they studied had a arts degree? Our point here precisely. You are digressing from the point btw.

As mentioned, other forms of degree might provide better exposure or certain technical knowledge that might be a better starting base than an arts degree, its not about sticking to what you studied. You can study engineering and do IT/trading/comms, but its difficult to do banking if you studied arts. One can always do arts as a minor or 2nd major, but its better to have a main degree that is more functional.

Besides, OP's concern was also with money issues and I think it is agreeable that arts degree students have limited choices when it comes to securing jobs with higher pay.
10-05-2017 11:38 PM
Unregistered I am working for a Tier 1 MNC and I second the suggestion to consider these places in lieu of banking and finance.

The hours are generally better, culture is quite down to earth and pay is decent. You get 4-5k for most of the top MNC grad programs, which is comparable to the MAPs in banking.

Unless you really develop a keen interest in a FO role e.g. trading, I would suggest you keep your options open.
10-05-2017 09:41 PM
Unregistered 99% do.....
10-05-2017 08:56 PM
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No it is not silly. How many good jobs out there today do not require some sort of technical expertise? How many people out there have become a facebook engineer, JPM investment banker, without relevant skills in coding or financial modelling?

I applaud OP for being so farsighted and i couldnt agree more with a previous poster that you can always 'pick up Arts knowledge' on the side of a Biz/Law degree, much more easily than the converse.

Unless of course, money is of no issue to you. By all means just do a full blown arts degree.
There are many jobs that do not require technical expertise or if they do, what you study in school is mostly irrelevant. In fact, some of the so called technical jobs like engineering, IT and bioscience are the worst hit in sg. Macroeconomic changes and labor demand & supply determine money, not whether one is technical or not.

And the world is not just facebook engineer or investment banker, how many jobs out there even need coding or financial modelling in the first place? And if we want to be real anal, how many investment bankers even do financial modelling (as in construct and design as opposed to SOP implementing framework)? 10-20%?
10-05-2017 05:53 PM
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All this talk about future career & pay increase is quite silly when the dude hasn't even started university schooling. Take a look around you, how many people after 10 years are working in a job based on what they study? Only a small minority.
No it is not silly. How many good jobs out there today do not require some sort of technical expertise? How many people out there have become a facebook engineer, JPM investment banker, without relevant skills in coding or financial modelling?

I applaud OP for being so farsighted and i couldnt agree more with a previous poster that you can always 'pick up Arts knowledge' on the side of a Biz/Law degree, much more easily than the converse.

Unless of course, money is of no issue to you. By all means just do a full blown arts degree.
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