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28-06-2016 10:23 PM
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but foreigners with diploma already earning 2.2k minimum with s pass

And ur pt is? Why should companies pay less for foreigners if their qualification is same as u?
28-06-2016 09:26 PM
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Advice from my HR friend on this kind of campus fresh grad survey is to take a 15-20% discount on the value and that is the real market.

Reason such surveys are higher is 1) sample bias because only people who feel good about themselves will bother to take part and 2) no independent verification, anyone can put a higher number and minimal checks are done 3) ignore NS effect and higher public sector starting as a result of front loading

The schools themselves are not stupid and know that such raw data should be further adjusted to reflect underlying conditions, but they knowingly ignore doing that as reporting higher starting salaries does well for the school's branding.
but foreigners with diploma already earning 2.2k minimum with s pass

20-06-2016 03:56 PM
Unregistered Advice from my HR friend on this kind of campus fresh grad survey is to take a 15-20% discount on the value and that is the real market.

Reason such surveys are higher is 1) sample bias because only people who feel good about themselves will bother to take part and 2) no independent verification, anyone can put a higher number and minimal checks are done 3) ignore NS effect and higher public sector starting as a result of front loading

The schools themselves are not stupid and know that such raw data should be further adjusted to reflect underlying conditions, but they knowingly ignore doing that as reporting higher starting salaries does well for the school's branding.
19-06-2016 05:14 PM
Unregistered xyresic are u from EDMW forum and like specky zeh zeh? LOL
19-06-2016 02:36 PM
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u r paid how much the company values u based on the job scope you r hired for. if u think u r worth more or able to take on roles that pay more, then go try other companies/roles... but if at the end of the day, no company is willing to pay u 2500, then u sld re-value how much YOUR skill/knowledge/experience is really worth.
Yes agree with this. As a fresh grad with little or no experience, there is nothing about being shortchanged. Having been in the workforce for 4 years, I can say there is no free lunch in this world. Higher pay means you will have more responsibilities. Questions to think about: Are you able to apply for companies who can pay you 2.5k? If yes, good. If you have job offers that pay is 1.8 to 2.1K, will you reject them and wait for the 2.5k job? If you can get the 2.5k job, will it be a role that you want?
19-06-2016 02:08 PM
Unregistered u r paid how much the company values u based on the job scope you r hired for. if u think u r worth more or able to take on roles that pay more, then go try other companies/roles... but if at the end of the day, no company is willing to pay u 2500, then u sld re-value how much YOUR skill/knowledge/experience is really worth.
19-06-2016 02:02 PM
Unregistered Survey salary contains the NS recognition sum given to males who completed their NS but which private company don't so it is does skewed alot.
19-06-2016 01:56 PM
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then the survey results are all fake and fluff?
Salary survey results tend to be skewed to the higher spectrum as most of the people willing to take the survey are people with higher paying jobs. Hope that clarifies
19-06-2016 01:50 PM
Xyresic then the survey results are all fake and fluff?
19-06-2016 01:48 PM
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[://.polyges.sg/downloads/GES2015PR.pdf[/

but for my case polyGES put 2.5k as median, is it accurate?

am worried i'm getting shortchanged here
You should not expect 2.5k as a diploma holder. 2.5k is the low end of a degree pay.
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