Today 11:40 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
I will report you to police. I can file a police report for your post here.
|
wah im so terrified! go file la. hurt your fragile feelings cus your fragile self ego got broken when you feel exposed by the fact that you are a local uni reject, run to private uni become an acca dogs have shitty language and technical skills?
|
Today 10:54 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
If you look at Hong Kong
HongKong ICPA they sign MRA with ACCA
But ACCA member just need clear Hong Kong Capstone 4 hours paper
If you look at CA ANZ (Australia New Zealand)
They have RMA with ACCA FCCA
Then funny is
ISCA RMA with CA ANZ
CA ANZ RMA with ACCA
BUT ISCA AND ACCA NO RMA
LOL
|
Not so ez as u think. All these rma mra or whatever a requires members to continue to be active for both license. They want the $$. If u are a active member to events or con, they know the problem but no action. Lol.
Keep on saying work life balance is bad, pay is bad, want to improve quality
but no action. They just want to lock u in the pipeline. They data they share not even usedul
How many ca in big, mid and small firm.
How many local and
what are the work force in the industry.
Firm just hire anyone. Dont join this industry!
They keep on saying what accountants want, do they even know whether the public need all these crap?
|
Today 10:31 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
You are talking abt pre-scaq things now leh. Those days when such rma/mra with acca/cpa aus, the local uni grads were also seen equally can get CA sg after 5day PAC and any 3 yrs working experience. It was so much leveled playing field. Now we are asking local uni grad to chiong scaq w 3 yrs fixated ATO with very limited exemptions, while cpa aust grads just need clear 1 capstone for scaq to get CA sg.
|
If you look at Hong Kong
HongKong ICPA they sign MRA with ACCA
But ACCA member just need clear Hong Kong Capstone 4 hours paper
If you look at CA ANZ (Australia New Zealand)
They have RMA with ACCA FCCA
Then funny is
ISCA RMA with CA ANZ
CA ANZ RMA with ACCA
BUT ISCA AND ACCA NO RMA
LOL
|
Today 10:27 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Yup, fair meh? If im cpa aus grad I sure think its very fair la. Spent sch fee anurs-4 yrs to go local uni, grad liao come out they say cpa aus got rma while Local uni grad take full scaq. Lol.
|
No need try to stir sai or stir resentment against ACCA members
ISCA would have thought of all these
They already close the loop for ACCA members who try to game system by jumping to ICAEW then jumping to ISCA Before even signing RMA with ICAEW
|
Today 10:25 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Yup, fair meh? If im cpa aus grad I sure think its very fair la. Spent sch fee anurs-4 yrs to go local uni, grad liao come out they say cpa aus got rma while Local uni grad take full scaq. Lol.
|
Lame lah u
U think Isca never thought of these sort of resentment and grieving sentiment meh
They are giving local uni graduate accelerated pathway
Check out their Facebook page about the local uni accelerated pathway
|
Today 10:23 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
You are talking abt pre-scaq things now leh. Those days when such rma/mra with acca/cpa aus, the local uni grads were also seen equally can get CA sg after 5day PAC and any 3 yrs working experience. It was so much leveled playing field. Now we are asking local uni grad to chiong scaq w 3 yrs fixated ATO with very limited exemptions, while cpa aust grads just need clear 1 capstone for scaq to get CA sg.
|
In future, the local uni graduate can be exempt with 2 modules and they can take 2 modules of SCAQ during their university days. So 4 papers gao dim liao
So ok what? After graduating, just join ATO 3 years...then take Capstone paper gao dim liao mah.. settled.
Get ISCA CA liao
Of course those past 11 years local uni graduate suffer lah...no choice mah
Now they realise ACCA members all resigning from audit industry in SME audit since no future to get PA LICENSE...then partner all suffer have to do vouching themselves lol...or the audit cases just keep delaying
Maybe because of COVID?
Cannot be narrow minded lah
U see ISCA Accountancy Hub ....got so many different accounting bodies
Is open to all
ISCA also sign MOU with India and Philippines leh
We are like competing with nearby countries to see who cheaper
|
Today 10:16 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
You don't support RMA or MRA because you feel MRA and RMA is unfair to local uni graduate.
Noted.
|
Yup, fair meh? If im cpa aus grad I sure think its very fair la. Spent sch fee anurs-4 yrs to go local uni, grad liao come out they say cpa aus got rma while Local uni grad take full scaq. Lol.
|
Today 10:13 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Lame lah. Local uni grads got so many career options to choose from. If the local uni grads join big4, they only utilise the audit, tax, financial reporting modules they learnt in big4 lor... They can join bank or public sector too.
Audit job is too easy for them.
Whereas ACCA members like us have no choice but to stay in audit or accounting line leh....Cause ACCA members like us will resign from audit and join accounting if we cannot get our ISCA CA to become ACRA PA
RMA is very common mah
ISCA signed RMA and MRA many years
s://isca.org.sg/about-us/about-the-institute-of-singapore-chartered-accountants/our-history
2004: Mutual Recognition Agreement with CPA Australia
The Mutual Recognition Agreement (MRA) between ICPAS and CPA Australia was signed in 2004, offering ICPAS Professional Examinations graduates access to foreign membership.
2005: Mutual Recognition Agreement with the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants
Second MRA with Association of Chartered Certified Accountants (ACCA) signed.
|
You are talking abt pre-scaq things now leh. Those days when such rma/mra with acca/cpa aus, the local uni grads were also seen equally can get CA sg after 5day PAC and any 3 yrs working experience. It was so much leveled playing field. Now we are asking local uni grad to chiong scaq w 3 yrs fixated ATO with very limited exemptions, while cpa aust grads just need clear 1 capstone for scaq to get CA sg.
|
Today 10:12 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hello ppl.
Only cpa aus and local u with app only need to take capstone to get ca sg.
If acca only need to take 1 capstone then ca sg is really a trash. Dont make sense also because if acca to icaew have a lot more requirements to meet also.
At this point no need to pwn the locals again. They did it 11 years ago now did a u turn for local u and cpa aus. If acca also comes in, i recommend dont take up scaq or study accountancy. This industry is flooded with ppl from developing countries, just like any other job that no local want to do.
The smart move should be step up their game not going u turn. If u are already in accountancy, sux to be u. If u are choosing ur course, for your parent and a self respect to yourself, please dont come to accountancy. Ur parent spent more than 20 years, giving u the best and u worked so hard to be somewhere better, not downgrade yourself to be on par with those that are not that great.
Now they even go primary sch to sell the shyt dream.
|
I'm ACCA member.
If you look at the history of ISCA, ISCA signed MRA with CPA Australia in 2004 and then signed MRA with ACCA in 2005.
If CPA Australia can sign MRA, why can't sign ACCA?
This audit industry in SME audit rely on ACCA to do fieldwork.
Alot of audit partner could not afford hire local uni grad but work still needs to be done.
Partner in their 40s to 60s need to take care of their children and elderly parents.
They need young people join the audit industry and help them.
But not all young people got local uni degree.
Some go for ACCA.
Please lah...local uni grad so many career options
Can join bank can join financial institutions like JP Morgan
Can join banking sector
Can join public sector
Why just audit or accounting?
Leave these jobs to us ACCA members who doing these jobs everyday
Don't look down on ACCA
|
Today 09:55 AM |
Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Disagree, i’ve interned at both. went on to take PO at big4 and stayed for 5 years. mid tier is not structured. methodlogy is not consistent, it’s very dependent on the manager/partner. clients not as big or complex. at big 4 if you are good and you show you want to take on more they will definitely give you more interesting and challenging stuff (we are already short staffed so there’s more incentive to do this actually). but of course if you have proven to be the 9-5 guy, just wanna do your own work allocation. then the experience will be just as described as above.
don’t forget that in the grand scheme of things no matter how you paint the picture big4 audit quality is also better (although it’s at all time low now), the quality of your learning is also improved.
many times what i observe is intern just wanna get their internship done and dusted. experience is entirely up to you.
|
Nonsense. Singapore listed co only 1% only. With total cos of 400k plus in singapore. Most b4 job is also transferred to mjd tier. U day dreaming.
As usual high and mighty with no fact.
|