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Yesterday 10:15 PM
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someone with 16odd yrs in service. Reality is...does not matter. As lomg as your RO and SLs like you, you can be pushed up very quickly. Big sins can be forgiven. If they do not like you, smallest detail will kill.
Perfect eg....results are nt impt (national exams) if they like you....results are impt if they dont like you. Same for classroom management or anything you can think of. Sad but true
Agree 100% Spoken like a true blue veteran.

If you sense your sch leaders and/or RO do not like you, best option is go somewhere else the fastest you can as to stay is only to remain stagnant n torture yourself.
Yesterday 08:50 PM
Unregistered Usually no (re-employment capped at GEO5), but I remember reading something about either CAJT or re-employment options with schools allowed to re-hire at SEO1 pay grade. Not something I really looked into as it's still quite some time away for me 😅 but I think it's worth exploring with your VP/RO, if that's what you'd like to pursue?

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When retirement age is reached, can a KP continue on working at his/her position with the same pay and benefits?
Yesterday 07:46 PM
Unregistered someone with 16odd yrs in service. Reality is...does not matter. As lomg as your RO and SLs like you, you can be pushed up very quickly. Big sins can be forgiven. If they do not like you, smallest detail will kill.
Perfect eg....results are nt impt (national exams) if they like you....results are impt if they dont like you. Same for classroom management or anything you can think of. Sad but true
Yesterday 07:00 PM
Unregistered When retirement age is reached, can a KP continue on working at his/her position with the same pay and benefits?
Yesterday 05:32 PM
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I heard from some friends that they were selected for the FLP.

How can we get onboard?

Iím a local uni grad, 2nd upper, GEO 3. Taught for about 6 years.
ems scholarship and above. or pat oyea winner/finalist
Yesterday 05:08 PM
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Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
Stop spreading misinformation. Starting CEP varies according to educational background and scholar status, yes, but CEP can and will be shifted during your performance appraisals after you enter service. Depending on your performance and potential, your CEP can be shifted multiple times early in your career, and then (usually, but not always) stabilise in your mid to late career.

Being a scholar does not automatically guarantee a high CEP, and even if you start high, if you underperform, your panel will have no qualms adjusting your CEP downwards to better reflect your low potential. The same goes for non-scholars who consistently demonstrate that they are deserving to work at higher levels - their CEP can be adjusted to a point where their progression exceeds that of a low-performing scholar.
Yesterday 04:27 PM
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Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
Bullshit. Your CEP is not fixed for life. It could be adjusted upwards if you have proven yourself to be able to perform at a higher level. At the same time, it is possible for a downward adjustment if you really screw up
Yesterday 03:53 PM
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Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
This is very misleading. I know many scholars who get Cs. Everyone starts at GEO5 cep.
Yesterday 03:40 PM
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No it doesnít automatically.

CEP ultimately has to do with assessed potential by your leaders. It requires time and consistent performance. Doing your Masters perhaps demonstrates your willingness to develop yourself professionally; it does not demonstrate your potential as clearly as actual work done in school.
Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
Yesterday 10:32 AM
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I heard from some friends that they were selected for the FLP.

How can we get onboard?

Iím a local uni grad, 2nd upper, GEO 3. Taught for about 6 years.
High CEP, consistently high performance grades (regularly getting Bs, occasional A), and still young enough (exact cutoff not known). FLP is centrally managed by HR, so all you can do is wait for the news.

6 years in service and still GEO3 may not suggest a very high CEP though, so you will need to temper your expectations a little. I'm not saying you're definitely not going to be on FLP, but you need to realise that at least amongst the young "go-getters" in the service, it is very competitive.
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