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30-10-2015 09:00 PM
Unregistered Im in similiar situation... with a nice boss who doesn't say anything adverse. However, the dept has a few super old birds who are very set in their thinking and will flog you to death in public if you were to question or critique their methods. Its not a healthy environment for learning or growing and while they will likely face serious problems if they move to private, its unlikely they will ever move since they have been stuck here for so long. So the dilemna is to stay on and try to squeeze in the pigeon hole or move elsewhere...
30-10-2015 05:38 PM
Unregistered Try approaching from another perspective and perhaps you could like what you are doing now
30-10-2015 04:54 PM
Unregistered
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i hope ur not seriously thinking this means something
lol at "economic even in poly and uni thats where I score pretty well among all other subject."

what does that even mean?

economic rice?
30-10-2015 04:14 PM
Unregistered
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I did my economic even in poly and uni thats where I score pretty well among all other subject.
i hope ur not seriously thinking this means something
30-10-2015 03:55 PM
Unregistered Seriously what is the problem? If you are unwilling/unable to learn to keep up then just wayang around and start applying for job interviews secretly.

If you can then just hang around until the 2 years up and then reconsider options. There is really no need to over complicate things.
30-10-2015 03:54 PM
Unregistered
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first, i think you have got the wrong information through your imagination or stereotyping.
I did my economic even in poly and uni thats where I score pretty well among all other subject.
I did not say that getting a piece of paper will define smart, or what you have said "smart overnight".
Nobody is born smart in the first place. probably you are wearing a tall hat for yourself that you are smarter than anybody or everybody.
Neither did i say i want to write a local economic outlook as well.
sadly from what you have wrote, it shows 2 things about you.
1. lack of character, except thinking that you are the smartest or the know it all (from imagination).
2. if you are someone who writes about local economic outlook, it probably is inaccurate because what your content is about just what you feel, and did not based on actual evidence or source.

furthermore, even if you are any of the league grads, doesnt mean you are top of the world, other than being book-smart.
Insulting people can clearly show what kind of person you are as an individual. a frog in the well.
thats ok mate, if he is truly an economist, then i guess earning 10-15k a month being a frog in the well/book smart local grad is not bad.
30-10-2015 03:50 PM
kairi9q
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typical guy from sim. knows nothing but think just becuase you paid some $ to do a course (fake degree) become very smart overnight.

there is nothing related to "economies" - its economics. but then again you are from sim.

economists are usually ivy league grads. cant imagine i would give 2 hoots to a guy from sim writing about the local economic outlook. might treat it as a toilet paper at best
first, i think you have got the wrong information through your imagination or stereotyping.
I did my economic even in poly and uni thats where I score pretty well among all other subject.
I did not say that getting a piece of paper will define smart, or what you have said "smart overnight".
Nobody is born smart in the first place. probably you are wearing a tall hat for yourself that you are smarter than anybody or everybody.
Neither did i say i want to write a local economic outlook as well.
sadly from what you have wrote, it shows 2 things about you.
1. lack of character, except thinking that you are the smartest or the know it all (from imagination).
2. if you are someone who writes about local economic outlook, it probably is inaccurate because what your content is about just what you feel, and did not based on actual evidence or source.

furthermore, even if you are any of the league grads, doesnt mean you are top of the world, other than being book-smart.
Insulting people can clearly show what kind of person you are as an individual. a frog in the well.
30-10-2015 03:06 PM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by kairi9q View Post
i did a diploma in hotel and hospitality during my poly days because I couldnt get into business course after O level.

After which I went to work in F&B but I know that if i dont further my studies, i will always stuck at the same level. However, I went to work as a financial consultant (insurance agent so to speak), completed all the exams etc. I didnt even work there for a month because i find that it is something out of my comfort zone/ personal reasons that i started to hate it, so i left.

I went to take up a general course in SIM, it's just named as bachelor in business management degree, in case I regret taking something too specific.

So after I have graduated I went back to the previous/current bank I am working in now, with the thought of just getting a job because I couldnt get in to anything related to economies, and thought that maybe just by having some experience would be good.

The job role is rather special and enriching I could say for the 5-6 months I have stayed. what my department does is to improve the overall bank productivity and service quality. E.g. paper to paperless etc.
in other words making things more efficient and also I will help other department with their manuals if needed kind of thing.

so for the current project they are doing, i dont really have that kind of technical knowledge. I will just follow and try my best to do whatever I can.
somehow it is like they can definitely find a better fit than myself.
typical guy from sim. knows nothing but think just becuase you paid some $ to do a course (fake degree) become very smart overnight.

there is nothing related to "economies" - its economics. but then again you are from sim.

economists are usually ivy league grads. cant imagine i would give 2 hoots to a guy from sim writing about the local economic outlook. might treat it as a toilet paper at best
30-10-2015 03:03 PM
kairi9q
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Not in the industry, but I believe you're working on projects? I think try talking to your immediate boss first? Share with him/her your struggles. Who knows, he/she may think that your performance is good! In any case, he/she will let you know how you perform at the moment. You can work with him/her what's the next step to take.

For technical knowledge, it's best to learn little by little. I was thrown to do engineering work when I have almost zero background. I started off by learning the very basics, what are amp/voltage/current. From there, learn AC/DC, what is transformer and more. Within a year, I can talk to contractors without looking like an idiot.

I assume you're dealing with IT. So start off by learning about the basics if you don't have any IT knowledge. Go google and learn about servers/clients, RAM, processors, cache, cloud, database, type of LAN cables, etc. Absorb whatever you can, no pressure. Can be knowing the difference between RAM and hard disk. What does a RAM do exactly. What's the typical RAM size in a desktop/laptop/phone/tablet/server.

Another method is whenever you heard an unknown term from your colleagues. Jot it down, and then google. At least the next time you hear it, you sort of understand.

Be positive and take it as a opportunity to learn. As long as your superiors and colleagues are not complaining, there is no need to worry. At this stage, just follow instructions and learn from your colleagues. Learn at your free time too. Things will slowly but surely fall into place.
Thanks!
My immediate boss should be writing for my appraise within this few days.
He is a very nice guy, but not sure if this is good or bad, because he will always be smiling and will never tell us what his boss has said about us.
But i do know that he is trying to teach me, probably i might have already make him vomit blood. but still i will try my best as long as i can.

really thanks for the advise.
30-10-2015 01:07 PM
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by kairi9q View Post
i did a diploma in hotel and hospitality during my poly days because I couldnt get into business course after O level.

After which I went to work in F&B but I know that if i dont further my studies, i will always stuck at the same level. However, I went to work as a financial consultant (insurance agent so to speak), completed all the exams etc. I didnt even work there for a month because i find that it is something out of my comfort zone/ personal reasons that i started to hate it, so i left.

I went to take up a general course in SIM, it's just named as bachelor in business management degree, in case I regret taking something too specific.

So after I have graduated I went back to the previous/current bank I am working in now, with the thought of just getting a job because I couldnt get in to anything related to economies, and thought that maybe just by having some experience would be good.

The job role is rather special and enriching I could say for the 5-6 months I have stayed. what my department does is to improve the overall bank productivity and service quality. E.g. paper to paperless etc.
in other words making things more efficient and also I will help other department with their manuals if needed kind of thing.

so for the current project they are doing, i dont really have that kind of technical knowledge. I will just follow and try my best to do whatever I can.
somehow it is like they can definitely find a better fit than myself.
Not in the industry, but I believe you're working on projects? I think try talking to your immediate boss first? Share with him/her your struggles. Who knows, he/she may think that your performance is good! In any case, he/she will let you know how you perform at the moment. You can work with him/her what's the next step to take.

For technical knowledge, it's best to learn little by little. I was thrown to do engineering work when I have almost zero background. I started off by learning the very basics, what are amp/voltage/current. From there, learn AC/DC, what is transformer and more. Within a year, I can talk to contractors without looking like an idiot.

I assume you're dealing with IT. So start off by learning about the basics if you don't have any IT knowledge. Go google and learn about servers/clients, RAM, processors, cache, cloud, database, type of LAN cables, etc. Absorb whatever you can, no pressure. Can be knowing the difference between RAM and hard disk. What does a RAM do exactly. What's the typical RAM size in a desktop/laptop/phone/tablet/server.

Another method is whenever you heard an unknown term from your colleagues. Jot it down, and then google. At least the next time you hear it, you sort of understand.

Be positive and take it as a opportunity to learn. As long as your superiors and colleagues are not complaining, there is no need to worry. At this stage, just follow instructions and learn from your colleagues. Learn at your free time too. Things will slowly but surely fall into place.
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