| 14-04-2015 01:39 PM |
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Sorry to hijack this thread, but I hope to get some advice on this. Recently I am planning to do a Masters as part of my personal and career development. One of the course I am looking at is Org Psychology. Wonder if anyone here has that, or know what are the pros and cons of doing this?
Should I eventually take up this, what are the careers prospect I can look forward to?
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| 07-04-2015 10:33 PM |
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half-hearted efforts and get a B? And a B = 5months? That's very easy money!
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Ur half hearted may not be his, dont be a sour grape. Some pple are just better in what they do.
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| 07-04-2015 04:21 PM |
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half-hearted efforts and get a B? And a B = 5months? That's very easy money!
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my thoughts exactly!
half-hearted efforts in pte sector will probably get you a C (~1+ mths) or D (bonus withheld).
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| 07-04-2015 03:04 PM |
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I agree. When I was a middle manager in a stat board, there was the 9-6pm shift and 1-10pm shift. I ended up doing many late shifts till midnight when I can work without interruption.
In CS (doing policy work), I regularly work from 8am to 8pm/9pm. Now doing operational work, a bit more relax and only stay behind for extra 30 minutes as office have to close by 630pm...
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Yeah policy work never ends.
But usually do policy work can get better performance grade and visibility
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| 07-04-2015 02:36 PM |
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Fyi, i was a civil servant for 7yrs, resigned in jan because I had to go overseas for 2months and didnt want to return to the same role. Now i found another job at another ministry so i know what the average performer gets.
I was in 2 Ministries, my PB for first yr was C, subsequently were Bs, once i got an A. I think you dont know what you are talking about. B is 2.5mo of pb, with aws, mid yr, end yr and variable bonuses (sometimes), you get arnd 5mo. I wasnt look at climbing, i still got a B. Have you even been in the CS before, pffft 2.5 to 3.5 includ aws?
My hubb was an A performer last year, his total bonuses amt to 6mo, i suggest you do your calculation properly and not post narrow minded comments.
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half-hearted efforts and get a B? And a B = 5months? That's very easy money!
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| 07-04-2015 01:07 PM |
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That is a myth.
CS does not assure knocking off on time and having good work life balance. Many of us work our ass off. It really depends on your portfolio.
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I agree. When I was a middle manager in a stat board, there was the 9-6pm shift and 1-10pm shift. I ended up doing many late shifts till midnight when I can work without interruption.
In CS (doing policy work), I regularly work from 8am to 8pm/9pm. Now doing operational work, a bit more relax and only stay behind for extra 30 minutes as office have to close by 630pm...
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| 07-04-2015 10:34 AM |
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shipping goes in cycles, eg the past 5 years or so has been the dumps and then you get a good 2 or 3 years, so CS is definitely more stable.
CS are probably benchmarking against management positions in pte, eg with at least 2-3 layers of reporting structure. However those positions are few in pte, and I highly doubt that people with no relevant or "generalist" experience can fill these.
i'm in pte, but i always wish to get a cushy CS job. high pay, good bonus, good annual increments, knock off on time, good work life balance.....
the grass is always greener on the other side...
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That is a myth.
CS does not assure knocking off on time and having good work life balance. Many of us work our ass off. It really depends on your portfolio.
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| 07-04-2015 08:33 AM |
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Ya agree some private sectors like shipping can be 9mo bonuses, CS is considered average though i know there are many many companies with only max 3mo (inc aws which is not a bonus anyway), at least we get to enjoy MI every yr and promotion comes after every 2 to 5 yrs. out basic salary is lower wor, outside anyhow jump is 10%, CS jump no increment de.
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shipping goes in cycles, eg the past 5 years or so has been the dumps and then you get a good 2 or 3 years, so CS is definitely more stable.
CS are probably benchmarking against management positions in pte, eg with at least 2-3 layers of reporting structure. However those positions are few in pte, and I highly doubt that people with no relevant or "generalist" experience can fill these.
i'm in pte, but i always wish to get a cushy CS job. high pay, good bonus, good annual increments, knock off on time, good work life balance.....
the grass is always greener on the other side...
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| 07-04-2015 05:18 AM |
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because it varies widely in pte
good can be v gooooood
bad can be v baaaaad
so it dep on where within pte sector u compare to lor
bleah
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Ya agree some private sectors like shipping can be 9mo bonuses, CS is considered average though i know there are many many companies with only max 3mo (inc aws which is not a bonus anyway), at least we get to enjoy MI every yr and promotion comes after every 2 to 5 yrs. out basic salary is lower wor, outside anyhow jump is 10%, CS jump no increment de.
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| 07-04-2015 02:09 AM |
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Hmmm... I don't understand why CS always think that those in pte sector earns more. With a higher basic, and a 5.5 month bonus, how can it compare to the pte sector? Most in pte sector can be thankful for a 2-3 month bonus...
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because it varies widely in pte
good can be v gooooood
bad can be v baaaaad
so it dep on where within pte sector u compare to lor
bleah
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