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01-10-2014 05:50 PM
Unregistered In summary TS want a good job with good increment good challenge good learning good career good work life balance and knock off early for dancing lesson.

Join ur grandfather co. loh
01-10-2014 03:46 PM
Nik Much thanks for the replies guys.

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But your answers further confirm my assumptions earlier: You really have no particular reason to jump ship other than the fact you feel quite bored. You are not really interested in the job or the company or even the money, you are simply hoping that something will be different and less bored.

This is a classic case of "backside itchy" which you will likely regret later. Count your blessings now and don't push your luck, many in SG would love to swap places with you.
Yes, but I'll still go to the 2nd interview to see how things go, and if they really do give the job to me, I'll check to see if they can give me 1 - 2 days to consider before officially signing the letter of offer.

Yes, to a very big extent, there's no super pressing reason to jump ship other than backside itchy and wanting to try new things and get a bit of pay increment in the meantime.

But then again, if one continues staying at the same company for years, one will not see any progress in the work life.
01-10-2014 10:31 AM
Unregistered
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Tks, actually the reason for wanting to jump ship is so I can learn something new. Currently, the present job is getting very very static and predicatable, and I can spend days and weeks watching videos during working hours simply because I'm too free.

And because I've more bargaining power due to having a job currently, I can afford to be more picky (have turned down a couple of job offers due to either distance or just didn't like the look/feel of the company ambience).

It's this risk of jumping into the unknown that subconsciously down inside, I'll actually be relieved and happy if I didn't get this job LOL

While most people in SG seems to be highly focused on work and nothing else, I've come to realized that earning less and enough just to live decently and be happy about it is more important than earning much more and living a unhappy, uptight and heavy life everyday.
(in fact, I've become a happier person ever since I cut down on my working hours and took up leisure activities)
Fair enough, I respect your decision and lifestyle choices and must say I agree to an extent most in SG seem to be way too obsessed in work and climbing the corporate ladder.

But your answers further confirm my assumptions earlier: You really have no particular reason to jump ship other than the fact you feel quite bored. You are not really interested in the job or the company or even the money, you are simply hoping that something will be different and less bored.

There are not many companies and bosses in SG which take this sort of attitude of hobby >>> work. To get a decent job in SG where the boss/company allow you to go home on time regularly is already rare, to get one that allows you to go back early for your hobby is super rare.

This is a classic case of "backside itchy" which you will likely regret later. Count your blessings now and don't push your luck, many in SG would love to swap places with you.
01-10-2014 10:25 AM
Unregistered I felt that there's no need to be specific about what your personal committments are. Some ppl might private and not be comfortable going into detail about their committments and there are those who do are just be playing up the sympathy card e.g. there are parents whose kids are not that young (already in pri/sec school) and claim that they can't work stay late even once in a blue moon when they have caregivers at home in the first place.

Other ppl are in no position to judge whether some committments are more important than others. Only you know what is best for yourself.

That said, it does help if your new job doesn't require a short turnaround time or can be brought home on the days you need to leave on time.
01-10-2014 10:05 AM
Nik
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Seriously have you considered what exactly is the point in your moving job?

Without much monetary incentive or commitment and determination on your part to build a career, I do not see any point in jumping ship to the unkown especially when you have specific requirements to leave eaarly on certain days, want work life balance, cannot work 12hr days etc etc.

Again ask yourself, what is the point of changing job if there is little monetary or personal development incentive?
Tks, actually the reason for wanting to jump ship is so I can learn something new. Currently, the present job is getting very very static and predicatable, and I can spend days and weeks watching videos during working hours simply because I'm too free.

And because I've more bargaining power due to having a job currently, I can afford to be more picky (have turned down a couple of job offers due to either distance or just didn't like the look/feel of the company ambience).

It's this risk of jumping into the unknown that subconsciously down inside, I'll actually be relieved and happy if I didn't get this job LOL

While most people in SG seems to be highly focused on work and nothing else, I've come to realized that earning less and enough just to live decently and be happy about it is more important than earning much more and living a unhappy, uptight and heavy life everyday.
(in fact, I've become a happier person ever since I cut down on my working hours and took up leisure activities)
01-10-2014 09:42 AM
Unregistered
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Yes, I'm a guy, 33+. Been working for half a decade +-.

Reason I'm asking all these is because in the past, I use to take whatever was given to me at face value. ie: If company requires 6 day work week and other stuff, I would just take it without a single complaint whatsoever.

However, as I get older, I feel it's important to change this way of thinking and be more assertive in knowing more about the new company before I quit the current one and join.

Do give me some insight on my previous post above. Tks!

Tks,
Nik
I'll be a bit blunt, no offence intended.

Seriously have you considered what exactly is the point in your moving job?

From what you have said, it seems ypou don't expect much in terms of increment and the fact that you made no mention of any specific interest in the job and prioritizing dancing to the job indicates neither the company nor the job really drives you to build a career with them.

Without much monetary incentive or commitment and determination on your part to build a career, I do not see any point in jumping ship to the unkown especially when you have specific requirements to leave eaarly on certain days, want work life balance, cannot work 12hr days etc etc.

You can skirt around the issue by asking about culture and if people work OT, but I predict you will just get the typical standard answer along the lines of: We believe in performance driven, team work and company oriented culture. OT will depend on business needs. This is a typical safe answer 95% of the companies will give and it tells you nothing.

In the end you will either be forced to ask outright that you want to go off early for dancing which will severely jeapordise your chances of the getting the job or just take this generic answer for what it is and pray hard that it all somehow works.

Again ask yourself, what is the point of changing job if there is little monetary or personal development incentive?
01-10-2014 08:42 AM
Unregistered
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Yes, I'm a guy, 33+. Been working for half a decade +-.

Reason I'm asking all these is because in the past, I use to take whatever was given to me at face value. ie: If company requires 6 day work week and other stuff, I would just take it without a single complaint whatsoever.

However, as I get older, I feel it's important to change this way of thinking and be more assertive in knowing more about the new company before I quit the current one and join.

Do give me some insight on my previous post above. Tks!

Tks,
Nik
Nothing wrong with asking for the working hours. Since you are only 50-50 confirmed for this job, don't come across too strong or "assertive". Your chances will be greatly diminished if I'm the hiring manager and I hear some kind of hint that you are not willing to stay back.

Heck, I don't even like my subordinates to be too OT minded. If I give them the leeway to come in late, then they should auto pay it back at the end of the day. No need to monitor and nag.
30-09-2014 11:54 PM
Nik Yes, I'm a guy, 33+. Been working for half a decade +-.

Reason I'm asking all these is because in the past, I use to take whatever was given to me at face value. ie: If company requires 6 day work week and other stuff, I would just take it without a single complaint whatsoever.

However, as I get older, I feel it's important to change this way of thinking and be more assertive in knowing more about the new company before I quit the current one and join.

Do give me some insight on my previous post above. Tks!

Tks,
Nik
30-09-2014 11:49 PM
Unregistered Hope one day u will wake up and learn how to priortise what's impt
30-09-2014 11:33 PM
Unregistered Dear nik,
R u a guy? May I know ur age. Tis sounds rude but I'm just curious

Thanks
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