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08-10-2013 10:20 AM
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The problem is everyone thinks himself got talent and destin to be CEO when young. When you reach 40 and realise you are just a mediocre guy stuck in some crappy level job that pays only <200k and in danger of retrench, its too late to turn back liao.
then go sell insurance lor. u are ur own CEO
08-10-2013 09:38 AM
Unregistered The problem is everyone thinks himself got talent and destin to be CEO when young. When you reach 40 and realise you are just a mediocre guy stuck in some crappy level job that pays only <200k and in danger of retrench, its too late to turn back liao.
08-10-2013 08:38 AM
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so why accept this sad fact of life?

if you got substance but not a scholar, go join the private sector.
This is what is happening on the ground. Even scholars who are not given due recognition (in terms of career progression) are going to the private sector. But then again, their perception of career advancement will be different from normal people, in that they expect reaching senior position within 10 years of service (around there).

In the end, people forget why they join the civil service in the first place - to make Singapore a better place for her residents.
07-10-2013 10:23 PM
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yea but you will never make it to Dy Sec & above. this is a sad fact of life.
so why accept this sad fact of life?

if you got substance but not a scholar, go join the private sector.
07-10-2013 06:53 PM
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You don't have to be a scholar to be on the AO scheme. There are people who are not scholars, slowly working their way up to be AO through programmes like MAP.
yea but you will never make it to Dy Sec & above. this is a sad fact of life.
07-10-2013 06:06 PM
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doesnt apply to public sector at all. no matter how good u r u will never make it to AO or CE as a farmer. those on AO have completely different career path and payscale that is as good as private sector, but as a farmer even if ur a super star the best you will ever make it is 1 level below Dy Sec.
You don't have to be a scholar to be on the AO scheme. There are people who are not scholars, slowly working their way up to be AO through programmes like MAP.
07-10-2013 02:38 PM
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At the end of the day, if you're good, you're good still holds. Though I don't deny that one have to fight much harder for opportunities and leaving good impressions as compared to a scholar.
doesnt apply to public sector at all. no matter how good u r u will never make it to AO or CE as a farmer. those on AO have completely different career path and payscale that is as good as private sector, but as a farmer even if ur a super star the best you will ever make it is 1 level below Dy Sec.
07-10-2013 10:30 AM
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You seem like a bright chap, why waste your life away in the bureaucracy?

As a farmer, all you will ever achieve in public sector is either an assistant manager / junior managerial level executing top directions no matter how good you are. They only give fake inflated titles that sound big, you will never reach the senior decision policy making level, these are all taken up by the scholars.
Though in broad essence I agree with you, but things are changing and the way things work in the public sector have also evolved to meet the changes in external environment. At the end of the day, if you're good, you're good still holds. Though I don't deny that one have to fight much harder for opportunities and leaving good impressions as compared to a scholar.
07-10-2013 10:18 AM
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pardon my english... i sld have said 'i will consider applying for'

i have not applied any job yet and hasnt been to any interview, not gradauating yet.. currently still exploring my options and trying to find more info... i went for the public service career event recently n i toked to the hr manager who was there.

my primary major is stats and my second major is econs.
You seem like a bright chap, why waste your life away in the bureaucracy?

As a farmer, all you will ever achieve in public sector is either an assistant manager / junior managerial level executing top directions no matter how good you are. They only give fake inflated titles that sound big, you will never reach the senior decision policy making level, these are all taken up by the scholars.
06-10-2013 02:28 PM
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I'm surprised. I thought you'll be applying for a job in the private sector? What made you apply for public then? Can you tell what are your basic degree and your minor?
pardon my english... i sld have said 'i will consider applying for'

i have not applied any job yet and hasnt been to any interview, not gradauating yet.. currently still exploring my options and trying to find more info... i went for the public service career event recently n i toked to the hr manager who was there.

my primary major is stats and my second major is econs.
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