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07-02-2013 09:39 AM
Unregistered The problem with many local IT people is not about travelling. Its the fact that many of them find non-IT things like dealing with subordinates, playing politics, networking with business, making boss happy etc. beneath their stature and simply refuse to take part in it. They think that just by being hardworking and technically sound in their knowledge will help them.

End result is many FT who are more multi-faceted and do all those softer side things end up promoted and become the manager of the locals even though their IT skills are way below the locals. These FT managers then boot out the locals and hire their nationalities while the locals end up kpkb about how come their technical skill so zhai still end up outsmarted by FT.

I have many friends doing IT facing the same predicament. I explain the problem to them and urge them to work on these non-IT areas to out manuvere the FTs, most will just go on hyper defensive mode and tell me how great their IT skills are and simply refuse to adapt to the environment.
06-02-2013 10:28 PM
Unregistered IT industry pay is always not bad. Been in IT for many years. In networking field.

Actually Locals are better in networking. Not FTs. Very few FTs are good. But locals prefer family life so its hard to progress too very far. To progress far like in management role, you need to travel like hell. So its either money or family. Thats why many ang mos held high position because they dont mind traveling or stationed in foreign land. Anyway thats their culture.

For locals, divorce already lo. if not confirm not close to spouse.

Want to earn alot..be a scholar and join gov.. like minister...confirm high pay or MP.
06-02-2013 03:00 PM
Unregistered
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Local programmers like no hope already..
Exactly, I worked with a few indian/sri lanka phd students, their programming is so bloody efficient i duno how to kp...

and programmers are paid like 2k(firmware c, c++,) 3k(c++, java, js, php), 4k(ror, sql, joomla/drupal) locals.

Indian programmers take 700lesser, and they are probably a lot better.
04-02-2013 02:48 PM
Unregistered Hello!

You could also consider looking at startups for your internship, especially since there is a dearth of software engineering talent in Singapore now. Try PSDPY | Startup Jobs

Lithan Hall Academy also has a programme where they place you at an early stage startup for 12 months with regular salary, while giving you the opportunity to pursue a diploma in technopreneurship.

Do check it out: Wanted: Entrepreneurial Talents

Hope this helps!
03-01-2013 03:23 PM
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Bad news: If you're just a normal coder (i.e. follow spec and code), pay won't be good, as you're up against those vietnamese/indians.

Good news: You can communicate better and learn faster than those normal coders. As you gain more expertises in more areas like infras, apps etc, you can move on to enterprise architect (EA) roles that easily command >$100K+. See IDA Infocomm Talent Portal
yes, communication skills, selling skills, and people management skills are essential.

deep industry and technical skills are expected, but without the other skills it's difficult to move up to senior roles like sales director, IT director and program director which pays $200K-$400K.
03-01-2013 03:02 PM
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No way. I hired programmers before. 5 yr exp, i pay only 2.8k pm. Locals won't do it. I get from vietnam. They're very good. Locals, however, can liase with customers better, and also better at doing solution architecture work. Even then, I only paid them mid 3k plus .
Bad news: If you're just a normal coder (i.e. follow spec and code), pay won't be good, as you're up against those vietnamese/indians.

Good news: You can communicate better and learn faster than those normal coders. As you gain more expertises in more areas like infras, apps etc, you can move on to enterprise architect (EA) roles that easily command >$100K+. See IDA Infocomm Talent Portal
03-01-2013 01:18 AM
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No way. I hired programmers before. 5 yr exp, i pay only 2.8k pm. Locals won't do it. I get from vietnam. They're very good. Locals, however, can liase with customers better, and also better at doing solution architecture work. Even then, I only paid them mid 3k plus .
Local programmers like no hope already..
17-12-2012 08:53 AM
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Really so good?
No way. I hired programmers before. 5 yr exp, i pay only 2.8k pm. Locals won't do it. I get from vietnam. They're very good. Locals, however, can liase with customers better, and also better at doing solution architecture work. Even then, I only paid them mid 3k plus .
16-12-2012 10:41 PM
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if you like programming, you can do programming. the pay can easily hit 100,000 a year..
Really so good?
16-12-2012 09:12 PM
Unregistered if you like programming, you can do programming. the pay can easily hit 100,000 a year..
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