| 25-10-2012 11:51 AM |
| poor and stupid |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
hmm but the reason the MNC hired me is because i learnt alot from my first job at SME..
sometime people looking at your willingness to learn and your commitment to work rite?
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When people ask for Phd/master , your degree kenna filtered before anyone looked at it.
When ppl ask for degree/master, your diploma goes into the email junk box + auto delete.
When ppl ask for diploma/ite, means usually they not MNC lolx
Unless you "know" people, then special case.
If I know enough of the right ppl, i bet i can be king!
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| 24-10-2012 05:07 PM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by poor and stupid
But Mnc still more "result-orientated" rite, just because they can afford to pay more.
and Sme only have the lesser result guys to hire...
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hmm but the reason the MNC hired me is because i learnt alot from my first job at SME..
sometime people looking at your willingness to learn and your commitment to work rite?
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| 24-10-2012 04:56 PM |
| poor and stupid |
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Originally Posted by bladez87
sarcasm????
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Sarcastic? But very true.
Remember, even if you are the 1st employee of a startup, and you get best employee of the day, everyday, for a year or two, does not mean you get to go up the ladder.
Joining a startup is always sad, they dun really have a lot of spending power, your pay is low, no overtime pay, lots of overtime, sad stuffs and worse still it may fold tomorrow, with maybe your salary unpaid.
If you are in the sales team, even worse, you havent start selling, already spend half a day tell other people wtf your coy is. And no meet target usually = instant out.
Engineering team, lousy/no equipment, no access to component inventory, no project backlogs, no people to guide you, etc etc...
If you want to join a startup, maybe you should save up and become your own boss.
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| 24-10-2012 04:39 PM |
| poor and stupid |
But Mnc still more "result-orientated" rite, just because they can afford to pay more.
and Sme only have the lesser result guys to hire...
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| 24-10-2012 04:09 PM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by poor and stupid
Yup, nothing wrong with asking.
And also, same person in different environment will have different outcome. A scholar joining an SME and DUN job hop and just go bang wall sua, actually you dun choose where you join also, just go see job sites for requirements...
If same position, doing about same thing lets just say engineering,
gov sector -> PHD/master
Mnc -> PHD/Master/Degree
Big SME -> Master/degree
SME -> degree/diploma
Small SME -> diploma/ite
No need to say, pay who more who less kidda obvious rite.
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my experience in US MNC R&D department telling me PhD dun really give you a pay hike..
come on la MNC is not as "scholar oriented" as GLC
Especially in US MNC, SOBC is important, every 6 month we do SOBC course to remind and remind you again to be a ethical worker, sort of wayang but you can see this is how they put work ethic above everything else.
trying to rise your voice on your subordinate? you will get corrective action immediately ..
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| 24-10-2012 12:37 PM |
| poor and stupid |
Yup, nothing wrong with asking.
And also, same person in different environment will have different outcome. A scholar joining an SME and DUN job hop and just go bang wall sua, actually you dun choose where you join also, just go see job sites for requirements...
If same position, doing about same thing lets just say engineering,
gov sector -> PHD/master
Mnc -> PHD/Master/Degree
Big SME -> Master/degree
SME -> degree/diploma
Small SME -> diploma/ite
No need to say, pay who more who less kidda obvious rite.
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| 24-10-2012 12:05 PM |
| bladez87 |
i am probably more of a mutual funds or index guy as compared to a trader.
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| 24-10-2012 11:07 AM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by bladez87
So from the discussion here I can conclude
SME - possibility to make it big or fail trying
MNC - high earning potential but face high retrenchment risk at 40+
CS - slow and steady
SB - slower and steady
I am in the accounts field, so I was wondering if accounts dept will get retrench and how much difficulty will they face when finding for a new job.
I am worried that my career will be cut short at 40+ and will face difficulty finding job to support the family.
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any person career path is depend on ownself, no point keep asking about what is like in other places. 2 people in the same place will also end up different fate. life is full of unkown dangers & opportunities, you are very young and looking for a quick answer to something unpredictable the next 40 years. you are like a newbie trader in the financial market asking for quick stock tips.
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| 24-10-2012 09:57 AM |
| bladez87 |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
yep mnc start off as sme just like you start off as a baby. great insights!!!
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sarcasm????
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| 24-10-2012 09:56 AM |
| bladez87 |
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Originally Posted by cslee
At last, someone is talking some sense, not like the other guy who totally missed my points in making swiping statements against a respectable sector in totally out of context manner. Government service is definitely not the highest paying sector but it's the most predictable career path (consistency here) i.e. you should be able to feed you and your family comfortably well and spend quality time with them. If you do work *consistently* smart/well and maintain good working relationships with your peers and bosses, I see very high chance (another consistency) of least retiring at MX9 and above. Just that most of the young officers don't last that long (including scholars - yes, many won't stay long either). I've with the service for quite sometime. Many had joined same time with me, but my batch only left with very few (sometime you can't help but can feel quite lonely at just beginning of mid-way).
Increments may be slow at beginning but can get quite rewarding in longer time span i.e. law of compound interests of 4-8% p.a. for average joe with occasional promotions of 8-15% (another consistency).
Having said that, you still won't be as rich as the top private bankers, top managers, top accountants etc unless you are absorbed into AO (very rare but still possible).
On the other hand, private sector is more rewarding and at same time chances of getting nowhere is also real e.g. US MNC is known to hire generously and fire quickly. Personally, I knew quite a few business acquaintances were hired into VP roles at young age in some IT US MNC but were at gone after 1-3 years (heard of being "fired" or "retrenched"). I also noted someone in thread mentioned that being unpredictable is fun. But I also do believe many still prefer stability (another "consistency" in career).
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Why did your peers leave? And I was under the impression that experience in CS is irrelevant to the private sector, does that mean that your peers started from bottom again in the private sector?
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